From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/12920 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Alphabetetetetization Date: 24 Nov 1997 13:47:46 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87oh3awoxw.fsf@plants-doll.enami.but-b.or.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035152374 6396 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:19:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19733 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:10:13 -0800 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03261 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:10:14 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with SMTP id OAA10317 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:49:38 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (qmail 29894 invoked by uid 504); 24 Nov 1997 13:49:36 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 29891 invoked from network); 24 Nov 1997 13:49:33 -0000 Original-Received: from xyplex16.uio.no (HELO sparky.gnus.org) (129.240.154.36) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 1997 13:49:31 -0000 Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by sparky.gnus.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17887; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:49:45 +0100 Mail-Copies-To: never Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Hrvoje Niksic's message of "24 Nov 1997 13:04:08 +0100" X-Mailer: Quassia Gnus v0.15/XEmacs 19.15 X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > However, the practice in most European and American countries is for > the order to be: > > First-name Last-name You mean: "Given name" "Family name" Calling them "first" and "last" is rilly culturally imperialistic. Or something. > Thus `Hrvoje Niksic', `Jon Babcock', etc. However, some languages -- > most notably Japanese and Hungarian -- reverse that order. The > "normal" way to write my name in Hungarian would be `Niksic Hrvoje'. Oh, I didn't know that. Is that just when writing, or do you say the names that way as well? Are there other European countries where they do this? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen