Messages coming and going

Messages coming and going

[Eric Abrahamsen]

This is going to be a very unhelpful bug report, but…

I've been more or less keeping up with git gnus over the past month or
so, and for the last couple of weeks I've noticed that some messages
appear and disappear from my groups. I first noticed it when, after
checking mail with 'g', messages showed up as unread that I'd very
definitely seen before. Then I realized that messages I'd seen were
'disappearing', only to return at some unspecified later date, with a
new mail check. This is all pop3 and nnml, no imap.

So far as I can tell, messages are being written to the directories with
the wrong permissions. Right now some messages are "missing", though I
can see them in the directory on the filesystem. Their permissions are
600, unlike all the others which are 755, and presumably that's what
keeps them from appearing in the group?

I can provide whatever other information is necessary, this is
yesterday's gnus and emacs "24.0.50.1". Pop3 and nnml, as I said. It
happens in multiple groups…

Thanks!

Eric

Re: Messages coming and going

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> So far as I can tell, messages are being written to the directories with
> the wrong permissions. Right now some messages are "missing", though I
> can see them in the directory on the filesystem. Their permissions are
> 600, unlike all the others which are 755, and presumably that's what
> keeps them from appearing in the group?

Yes, I'd guess so.

It's somewhat puzzling.  I don't recall doing any work on
`nnmail-default-file-modes' or code related to it.  Do you have any code
that alters that anywhere?  What is its value for you?

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Messages coming and going

[Eric Abrahamsen]

On Sat, Sep 25 2010, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> So far as I can tell, messages are being written to the directories with
>> the wrong permissions. Right now some messages are "missing", though I
>> can see them in the directory on the filesystem. Their permissions are
>> 600, unlike all the others which are 755, and presumably that's what
>> keeps them from appearing in the group?
>
> Yes, I'd guess so.
>
> It's somewhat puzzling.  I don't recall doing any work on
> `nnmail-default-file-modes' or code related to it.  Do you have any code
> that alters that anywhere?  What is its value for you?

I certainly don't—I'd never heard of that variable before. My value is
384 (#o600, #x180). My gnus.el is pretty tame, I don't mess with any
internals. Let me know if you want me to post it or any other config
files somewhere…

E

Re: Messages coming and going

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> I certainly don't—I'd never heard of that variable before. My value is
> 384 (#o600, #x180). My gnus.el is pretty tame, I don't mess with any
> internals. Let me know if you want me to post it or any other config
> files somewhere…

That's the default value.  Hm.  Oh, right, 600 is "read/write by me,
nothing for anybody else".  Makes sense.

I don't really know where to start looking for this....  I mean, it's
nnml, which is quite simple and haven't changed much at all lately.
Unless it's the marks stuff?  Do you use nnml marks?

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen