From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/69797 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Landscheidt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: ssl problems Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:28:06 +0000 Organization: Message-ID: References: <14564.8104175509$1278524335@news.gmane.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278527341 31371 80.91.229.12 (7 Jul 2010 18:29:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 18:29:01 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M18187@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jul 07 20:29:00 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OWZMc-0004gf-RO for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:28:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OWZMH-0000Hk-0a; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:28:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OWZMG-0000Hc-0N for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:28:32 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OWZME-0002uA-Ch for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:28:31 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1OWZMD-0007jw-00 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:28:29 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OWZMB-0004Lu-3I for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:28:27 +0200 Original-Received: from f054052087.adsl.alicedsl.de ([78.54.52.87]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:28:27 +0200 Original-Received: from tim by f054052087.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:28:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: f054052087.adsl.alicedsl.de Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tr01tBLx56UO3zcKzicTd4sqXLA= X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:69797 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > I recently updated from debian lenny to squeeze, and have found that > connecting to gmail's pop servers via ssl has become extremely dicey. I > have four email addresses, all of them gmail, and on any given mail > check three of them will tell me "POP SSL connexion failed". It can be > very hard to get all my email. My emacs/gnus versions and setup did not > change (still emacs 23.3.1 and gnus 5.13), all that changed was my linux > installation. I'm accessing gmail on port 995 with ":ssl t", and I have > "starttls-use-gnutls" set to true. My gnutls version is 2.8.6, which I > see isn't the latest version, but 2.10 isn't in the debian repos and > besides this was working smoothly under lenny, which presumably had the > same gnutls version. > Is there anything I can do to further debug this? I'm not an expert with > using gnutls-cli from the command line, but so far as I can tell it > connects fine (gnus only fails *most* of the time, anyway…). Is there a > way to get gnus to tell me *why* the POP SSL connection failed? For me, it helped to increase nnheader-read-timeout (and pop3-read-timeout to be on the safe side) to 2.0. Unfortunately, the whole SSL shebang with separate pro- cesses, not to speak of two different clients, seems to be *very* fragile. It would be *really* nice if it could be included properly in Emacs. Tim