From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/29576 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Laura Conrad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Do we still do Incoming* files? Date: 17 Mar 2000 18:54:35 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035166223 3474 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:10:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14709D051F for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:09:54 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAB32115; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:09:36 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:09:10 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13247 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:09:00 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from serpent.local (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517E4D051F for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:09:10 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by serpent.local (Postfix, from userid 500) id 0D080728FA; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:07:49 -0500 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: #0j-Ll[fajrfupWYMv&wa\m7!Sh=&3;JE-_&M-L,ULz(aE8iu%m1SHa5wG.V{3B:Fdnd/T# O -}0pPGYw%t1z`o&T_c=)p8l[}7R\={[@B*Jyj*.L4 hnJ*AXb Original-Lines: 66 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0804 (Gnus v5.8.4) XEmacs/21.1 (Bryce Canyon) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:29576 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:29576 >>>>> "Gunnar" == Gunnar Evermann writes: Gunnar> why do you use CVS then? stick with the tarballs or use Gunnar> the CVS tags to checkout snapshots/releases, i.e. 5.8.3 Gunnar> atm. I'm not complaining about having hit the problem -- it made me feel useful to be the first to report something like that. But I had thought I knew where the mail would be if gnus wasn't finding it. I'm proposing a change in the documentation, so that other people may be less confused than I was. Right now, the instructions for using cvs say: gnus.org> The proper incantation for checking out the Gnus sources gnus.org> the first time is this: gnus.org> ... gnus.org> (You type the bold parts.) gnus.org> You can then rename the resulting gnus directory to gnus.org> whatever you want -- like, for instance, pgnus. gnus.org> After doing this, to get a fresh Gnus, all you have to gnus.org> do is say: gnus.org> ... gnus.org> Please note that what you're getting is probably not even a gnus.org> bleeding-edge Gnus, but a severly hemorrhaging one. I'm proposing that we add something like: proposal> It's also a copy of what will be the released version, proposal> when it gets that far. So the version number is gnus proposal> x.x.x, not gnus-0.xx, and in order to report a proposal> problem, you need to specify the time you downloaded the proposal> cvs snapshot. proposal> Also, an important protection for users of gnusae is proposal> not in effect in the cvs repository. That is, the proposal> variable mail-source-delete-incoming is set to t in the proposal> released versions, and in the CVS repository. When an proposal> gnus tarball is rolled, the default for this variable proposal> is changed to 'nil', so that a development version with proposal> a serious bug is less likely to lose people's mail. So proposal> you probably want to think about the appropriate setting proposal> for this variable yourself. This might reduce the frequency of the Frequently Asked Question "What are all these 'Incoming*' files in my ~/Mail directory", too. If there are other differences between cvs gnus and the pgnus, or future ognus, tarballs, that I don't know about yet, maybe someone would like to write those up. -- Laura (mailto:lconrad@world.std.com , http://www.world.std.com/~lconrad/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139