* How to set news message id?
@ 1999-11-25 13:25 Gerald Preissler
1999-11-27 19:04 ` Kai Großjohann
1999-11-27 19:57 ` Robin S. Socha
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From: Gerald Preissler @ 1999-11-25 13:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi folks,
I just set up a local newsserver and can't get pgnus to generate the
message-id's I'd like to have. As per the FAQ on
<http://www.ccs.neu.edu/software/contrib/gnus> ,I set mail-host-address:
(setq message-from-style 'angles
user-mail-address "Gerald.Preissler@gmx.de"
mail-host-address "home.ivm.de"
message-syntax-checks '((sender . disabled))
but it still sets the message id to something like
Message-ID: <87so27qxrb.fsf@mycroft.localnet>
Looking in the info files, I find nothing on mail-host-address, so I
guess something has changed.
How can I fix this?
cheerio
Jerry
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* Re: How to set news message id?
1999-11-25 13:25 How to set news message id? Gerald Preissler
@ 1999-11-27 19:04 ` Kai Großjohann
1999-11-27 20:49 ` Håvard Kvålen
1999-11-27 19:57 ` Robin S. Socha
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 1999-11-27 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
The right hand side of the message id comes from the variable
system-name. What is it? The variable is automatically initialized
when Emacs starts, based on the contents of the /etc/hosts file (among
other things). So just put your FQDN in there (maybe as an alias) and
you'll be fine.
kai
--
because I couldn't think of a good beginning.
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* Re: How to set news message id?
1999-11-25 13:25 How to set news message id? Gerald Preissler
1999-11-27 19:04 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 1999-11-27 19:57 ` Robin S. Socha
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Robin S. Socha @ 1999-11-27 19:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
* Gerald Preissler <Gerald.Preissler@gmx.de> writes:
> Hi folks, I just set up a local newsserver and can't get pgnus to
> generate the message-id's I'd like to have.
Check these:
;;*================================
;; Setting the system name
(defun system-name () "Setting the system name" "socha.net")
;;*================================
;; Your own Message-ID. The unique part can be found in the middle. If
;; your machine doesn't have a FQDN, it is preferable to let the server
;; generate it
(defun message-make-message-id ()
"Make a unique Message-ID."
(concat "<deathsquad." (message-unique-id)
"@socha.net>"))
--
Robin S. Socha <http://socha.net/Gnus/>
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* Re: How to set news message id?
1999-11-27 19:04 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 1999-11-27 20:49 ` Håvard Kvålen
1999-11-28 14:45 ` Stainless Steel Rat
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From: Håvard Kvålen @ 1999-11-27 20:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> The right hand side of the message id comes from the variable
> system-name. What is it? The variable is automatically initialized
> when Emacs starts, based on the contents of the /etc/hosts file (among
> other things). So just put your FQDN in there (maybe as an alias) and
> you'll be fine.
You can do a (setq system-name "host.domain.net") in .emacs too.
--
Håvard Kvålen ** http://home.sol.no/~havardk/
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* Re: How to set news message id?
1999-11-27 20:49 ` Håvard Kvålen
@ 1999-11-28 14:45 ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-11-28 16:13 ` Robin S. Socha
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From: Stainless Steel Rat @ 1999-11-28 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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* havardk@sol.no (Håvard Kvålen) on Sat, 27 Nov 1999
| You can do a (setq system-name "host.domain.net") in .emacs too.
This is generally not a good idea. Doing this manually is a dead giveaway
that your system is not properly configured ("so shoot me").
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* Re: How to set news message id?
1999-11-28 14:45 ` Stainless Steel Rat
@ 1999-11-28 16:13 ` Robin S. Socha
1999-11-28 21:09 ` Stainless Steel Rat
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From: Robin S. Socha @ 1999-11-28 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
* Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:
> havardk@sol.no (Håvard Kvålen) on Sat, 27 Nov 1999
>> You can do a (setq system-name "host.domain.net") in .emacs too.
>
> This is generally not a good idea. Doing this manually is a dead
> giveaway that your system is not properly configured ("so shoot me").
If we all lived in a perfect world without things like German T*l*k*m,
you were probably right. However, you cannot configure a dial-up system
"properly" if your provider doesn't give you a static IP address.
Therefore, radioactive.socha.net "does not exist". I /could/ use Jonas
Luster MsgID patch for INN and tweak sendmail - but then again, why
bother?
--
Robin S. Socha <http://socha.net/Gnus/>
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* Re: How to set news message id?
1999-11-28 16:13 ` Robin S. Socha
@ 1999-11-28 21:09 ` Stainless Steel Rat
1999-11-29 14:08 ` David S. Goldberg
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From: Stainless Steel Rat @ 1999-11-28 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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* "Robin S. Socha" <robin@socha.net> on Sun, 28 Nov 1999
| If we all lived in a perfect world without things like German T*l*k*m,
| you were probably right. However, you cannot configure a dial-up system
| "properly" if your provider doesn't give you a static IP address.
No, no, a thousand times no. Configuring a system to correctly identify
itself to itself has absolutely *NOTHING* to do with what IP it is assigned
by the ISP.
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* Re: How to set news message id?
1999-11-28 21:09 ` Stainless Steel Rat
@ 1999-11-29 14:08 ` David S. Goldberg
1999-11-30 0:47 ` Stainless Steel Rat
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From: David S. Goldberg @ 1999-11-29 14:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
I'm not sure if this is what's considered "proper" but from my home
system, I simply don't have gnus set the message-id and use
smtpmail.el to connect to my ISP's MTA and let that set the
message-id. If there's a better way, I'd be happy to implement it.
--
Dave Goldberg
Post: The Mitre Corporation\MS B325\202 Burlington Rd.\Bedford, MA 01730
Phone: 781-271-3887
Email: dsg@mitre.org
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* Re: How to set news message id?
1999-11-29 14:08 ` David S. Goldberg
@ 1999-11-30 0:47 ` Stainless Steel Rat
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From: Stainless Steel Rat @ 1999-11-30 0:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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The technically simplest thing to do is have an MX record added to your
DNS. That is, if your machine is called `foo' and your "real" domain is
`bar.net', you should have an MX record for foo.bar.net pointing to
whatever MX hosts handle bar.net. This is half the reason for the
existence of the MX record type.
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