From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46198 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Paul Graham on fighting SPAM Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:00:53 -0400 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87d6sf42ys.fsf@emacswiki.org> <871y8u7un8.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87fzxa7ala.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87d6se9dsy.fsf@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1029844682 10354 127.0.0.1 (20 Aug 2002 11:58:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17h7e3-0002gU-00 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:57:59 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17h7eh-00070I-00; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:58:39 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:59:11 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA25980 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:58:59 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 15466 invoked by alias); 20 Aug 2002 11:58:23 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 15461 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2002 11:58:22 -0000 Original-Received: from ns3.beld.net (208.229.215.83) by gnus.org with SMTP; 20 Aug 2002 11:58:22 -0000 Original-Received: from heechee.beld.net (dhcp-0-50-8b-df-51-5e.cpe.beld.net [65.202.179.253]) by ns3.beld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EF33B9CF; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 07:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Alex Schroeder X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: Alex Schroeder , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87d6se9dsy.fsf@emacswiki.org> (Alex Schroeder's message of "Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:42:21 +0200") Original-Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46198 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46198 On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, alex@emacswiki.org wrote: > Alex Schroeder writes: > >> That sounds very good! I didn't know about this spam flag (I >> didn't read gnus.ding for several months). That makes things a lot >> easier. At the moment I am relying on the group name -- that >> sucks. :) > > If we do not move the mails away, however, we need to make sure that > every mail is processed only once. Would it be possible to add an > additional header or flag when processing a mail? > > The alternative to using a flag is one magic group such as > mail.spam: Process all new mail, move it to mail.spam. If the user > then moves mail from a group to mail.spam, we can undo the "good" > scores for that mail and redo a "bad" score for it -- and the other > way around. The current approach is very much like this (although > still incomplete). Why not just mark spam messages that have been processed as expired? I doubt users will want to keep spam messages around :) -- Teodor Zlatanov "Brevis oratio penetrat colos, longa potatio evacuat ciphos." -Rabelais