From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44628 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Copyright/license issues (was: [COMMIT] sign & encrypt changes) Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 11:20:58 -0400 Organization: What did you have in mind? A short, blunt, human pyramid? Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87adrjse42.fsf@alum.wpi.edu> <87wuunyrl4.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87u1pqbsl3.fsf@alum.wpi.edu> <87bsby4oy8.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87lmb2336u.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87662631te.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87wuum1lwl.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <3cx9mgs1.fsf@mail.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020439101 7532 127.0.0.1 (3 May 2002 15:18:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 15:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 173epB-0001xN-00 for ; Fri, 03 May 2002 17:18:21 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 173eoM-0002SP-00; Fri, 03 May 2002 10:17:30 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 03 May 2002 10:17:45 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA20570 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 10:17:33 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 22308 invoked by alias); 3 May 2002 15:17:13 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 22303 invoked from network); 3 May 2002 15:17:12 -0000 Original-Received: from multivac.student.cwru.edu (HELO multivac.cwru.edu) (qmailr@129.22.96.25) by gnus.org with SMTP; 3 May 2002 15:17:12 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 5814 invoked by uid 500); 3 May 2002 15:21:21 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <3cx9mgs1.fsf@mail.ru> (Dmitry Bely's message of "Fri, 03 May 2002 18:45:34 +0400") Mail-Copies-To: nobody Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44628 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44628 Dmitry Bely wrote: > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=EAjohann) writes: >> It is not the position of the Gnus community. Gnus is part of Emacs, > > Is not it a separate package that can work under GNU Emacs? GNU Emacs is > *not* required for Gnus: it can also very successfully work under XEmacs, > which obviously does not conform to RMS' general line. Gnus is distributed as its own package, but also GNU Emacs includes Gnus in its distribution tarball. For that to happen, Gnus's copyright must be completely held by the FSF. If we loosen the restrictions for Gnus, then we can't have it included in Emacs anymore. That might not be such a bad thing, though. People sometimes have trouble with load-path conflicts when trying to use a newer Gnus than the one that came with their Emacs. Or they sometimes have trouble because they're using the old version that came with their Emacs instead of the latest version. paul