From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35039 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: `user-mail-address' for message-ids Date: 27 Feb 2001 16:54:02 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <20010223133030.B14991@mastaler.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170848 876 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:27:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF5FD049D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:54:52 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAB24405; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:54:25 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:53:44 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15410 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:53:32 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from multivac.cwru.edu (multivac.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu [129.22.96.25]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 03F51D049D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:54:03 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (qmail 31444 invoked by uid 500); 27 Feb 2001 21:54:24 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: ("Jason R. Mastaler"'s message of "27 Feb 2001 14:44:34 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 19 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35039 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35039 "Jason R. Mastaler" writes: > But you haven't provided any proof of this "standard" of requiring the > fqdn (and nothing else) of the running system to make up the rhs. See RFC1036, 2.1.5. > I may be wrong, but it doesn't seem likely to me that several distinct > and intelligent groups of software developers (mutt, mozilla, qmail, > etc..) would have goofed so badly if this is an established standard. They don't goof, in themselves. They just make it easier for you to make them goof. It's possible to use, e.g., qmail's idhost to change the domain in Message-IDs in such a way that uniqueness is still guaranteed, although this might technically be a violation of the RFC. It's also possible to misuse these features, and misuse would be much more common than benign use in the case of user-mail-address. paul