How to set news message id?

How to set news message id?

[Gerald Preissler]

Hi folks,

I just set up a local newsserver and can't get pgnus to generate the
message-id's I'd like to have. As per the FAQ on
<http://www.ccs.neu.edu/software/contrib/gnus> ,I set mail-host-address:

(setq message-from-style 'angles
	user-mail-address "Gerald.Preissler@gmx.de"
        mail-host-address "home.ivm.de"
        message-syntax-checks '((sender . disabled))

but it still sets the message id to something like

  Message-ID: <87so27qxrb.fsf@mycroft.localnet>

Looking in the info files, I find nothing on mail-host-address, so I
guess something has changed.
How can I fix this?

cheerio
        Jerry

Re: How to set news message id?

[Kai Großjohann]

The right hand side of the message id comes from the variable
system-name.  What is it?  The variable is automatically initialized
when Emacs starts, based on the contents of the /etc/hosts file (among
other things).  So just put your FQDN in there (maybe as an alias) and
you'll be fine.

kai
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Re: How to set news message id?

[Håvard Kvålen]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:

> The right hand side of the message id comes from the variable
> system-name.  What is it?  The variable is automatically initialized
> when Emacs starts, based on the contents of the /etc/hosts file (among
> other things).  So just put your FQDN in there (maybe as an alias) and
> you'll be fine.

You can do a (setq system-name "host.domain.net") in .emacs too.

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Re: How to set news message id?

[Stainless Steel Rat]

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* havardk@sol.no (Håvard Kvålen)  on Sat, 27 Nov 1999
| You can do a (setq system-name "host.domain.net") in .emacs too.

This is generally not a good idea.  Doing this manually is a dead giveaway
that your system is not properly configured ("so shoot me").
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Re: How to set news message id?

[Robin S. Socha]

* Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:
> havardk@sol.no (Håvard Kvålen)  on Sat, 27 Nov 1999
>> You can do a (setq system-name "host.domain.net") in .emacs too.
>
> This is generally not a good idea.  Doing this manually is a dead
> giveaway that your system is not properly configured ("so shoot me").

If we all lived in a perfect world without things like German T*l*k*m,
you were probably right. However, you cannot configure a dial-up system
"properly" if your provider doesn't give you a static IP address. 
Therefore, radioactive.socha.net "does not exist". I /could/ use Jonas
Luster MsgID patch for INN and tweak sendmail - but then again, why
bother?
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Robin S. Socha  <http://socha.net/Gnus/>

Re: How to set news message id?

[Stainless Steel Rat]

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* "Robin S. Socha" <robin@socha.net>  on Sun, 28 Nov 1999
| If we all lived in a perfect world without things like German T*l*k*m,
| you were probably right. However, you cannot configure a dial-up system
| "properly" if your provider doesn't give you a static IP address.

No, no, a thousand times no.  Configuring a system to correctly identify
itself to itself has absolutely *NOTHING* to do with what IP it is assigned 
by the ISP.
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Re: How to set news message id?

[David S. Goldberg]

I'm not sure if this is what's considered "proper" but from my home
system, I simply don't have gnus set the message-id and use
smtpmail.el to connect to my ISP's MTA and let that set the
message-id.  If there's a better way, I'd be happy to implement it.
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Re: How to set news message id?

[Stainless Steel Rat]

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The technically simplest thing to do is have an MX record added to your
DNS.  That is, if your machine is called `foo' and your "real" domain is
`bar.net', you should have an MX record for foo.bar.net pointing to
whatever MX hosts handle bar.net.  This is half the reason for the
existence of the MX record type.
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Re: How to set news message id?

[Robin S. Socha]

* Gerald Preissler <Gerald.Preissler@gmx.de> writes:
> Hi folks, I just set up a local newsserver and can't get pgnus to
> generate the message-id's I'd like to have. 

Check these:

;;*================================
;; Setting the system name
(defun system-name  () "Setting the system name" "socha.net")
;;*================================
;; Your own Message-ID. The unique part can be found in the middle. If
;; your machine doesn't have a FQDN, it is preferable to let the server
;; generate it
(defun message-make-message-id ()
  "Make a unique Message-ID."
  (concat "<deathsquad." (message-unique-id)
"@socha.net>"))

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Robin S. Socha  <http://socha.net/Gnus/>