funky funky Topics and kill/yank groups

funky funky Topics and kill/yank groups

[Jack Vinson]

Hello gang;

I generally haven't worried about this a whole lot, but since I just did
some reorganizing of my topics (with the advent of nnimap) this really
became a problem.

Here are some things that bugged me:
  * Add a new topic somewhere.  It drops down to the bottom of the current
    topic.  I cannot move this topic above existing groups.  What if I
    /want/ it to be where the point was?  Is it not possible to have
        Topic A
                Group 1
                Group 2
                Topic B
                        Group 3
                        Group 4
                Group 5
                Group 6

  * 'T m' does not move a Topic.

  * Killing a range of groups with C-w did something odd for me.  I killed
    about 20 groups and went to insert (C-y, one at a time) them into
    another topic.  I ended up getting copies of the 20 groups below the
    ones I killed, and the ones I killed appeared to be gone forever.

  * Is it possible to indent the groups under a subtopic so that there is
    alway an X-space difference between the Topic and its Groups (and
    subtopics).  This only seems to happen with SubTopics.  
  

-- 
Jack Vinson
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Re: nnimap ?

[Jens-Ulrik Petersen]

Jack Vinson <vinson@unagi.cis.upenn.edu> writes:

> I generally haven't worried about this a whole lot, but since I just did
> some reorganizing of my topics (with the advent of nnimap) this really
> became a problem.

nnimap?  Wow!  Where can I get it from?  I doesn't seem to be in
pgnus-0.96.

Jens

> Here are some things that bugged me:
>   * Add a new topic somewhere.  It drops down to the bottom of the current
>     topic.  I cannot move this topic above existing groups.  What if I
>     /want/ it to be where the point was?  Is it not possible to have

I agree.  It would be nicer if new topics were created at point.  Once 
you put at least one group inside a new topic, you can kill it and
then yank to wherever you like.

>   * Is it possible to indent the groups under a subtopic so that there is
>     alway an X-space difference between the Topic and its Groups (and
>     subtopics).  This only seems to happen with SubTopics.  

I missed the point here: for me groups are already indented related to 
the topic line.

Jens

Re: funky funky Topics and kill/yank groups

[Kai Großjohann]

Jack Vinson <vinson@unagi.cis.upenn.edu> writes:

As to moving topics, I only know of C-k on the topic line, then C-y
elsewhere.  If that doesn't do what you want, I'm at the end of my
rope... 

>   * Is it possible to indent the groups under a subtopic so that there is
>     alway an X-space difference between the Topic and its Groups (and
>     subtopics).  This only seems to happen with SubTopics.  

You can include the correct specifier in the gnus-group-line-format
(%P I believe).  Please note that there is another variable
gnus-topic-line-format which controls what topic lines look like.  It
may well be that one includes the indentation specifier whereas the
other doesn't.  And what's more, the specifiers for the two variables
seem to be incompatible!

kai
-- 
I like BOTH kinds of music.

Re: nnimap ?

[Kai Großjohann]

Jens-Ulrik Petersen <jens-ulrik.petersen@nokia.com> writes:

> nnimap?  Wow!  Where can I get it from?  I doesn't seem to be in
> pgnus-0.96.

http://www.extundo.com/nnimap

kai
-- 
I like BOTH kinds of music.

Re: nnimap ?

[Sam Falkner]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:

> Jens-Ulrik Petersen <jens-ulrik.petersen@nokia.com> writes:

> > nnimap?  Wow!  Where can I get it from?  I doesn't seem to be in
> > pgnus-0.96.

> http://www.extundo.com/nnimap

Are there any plans to integrate this into gnus itself anytime soon?

Just curious -- Thanks!

- Sam

Re: nnimap ?

[Kai Großjohann]

Sam Falkner <samf@central.sun.com> writes:

> Are there any plans to integrate this into gnus itself ...

Yes.

> ... anytime soon?

Who's to know?  Simon says he wants to release nnimap 1.0 rather
soonish.  (Only bugfixes, no new features.)  After nnimap 1.0 has been
released, it can presumably be incorporated into Gnus.

In the meantime, the current Gnus and nnimap work together just fine
-- there is a quirk every now and then, but the added productivity of
Gnus more than makes up for that.

kai
-- 
I like BOTH kinds of music.

Re: funky funky Topics and kill/yank groups

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Jack Vinson <vinson@unagi.cis.upenn.edu> writes:

> Here are some things that bugged me:
>   * Add a new topic somewhere.  It drops down to the bottom of the current
>     topic.  I cannot move this topic above existing groups.  What if I
>     /want/ it to be where the point was?  Is it not possible to have
>         Topic A
>                 Group 1
>                 Group 2
>                 Topic B
>                         Group 3
>                         Group 4
>                 Group 5
>                 Group 6

`TAB' and `M-TAB' indents and un-indents topics.

>   * Killing a range of groups with C-w did something odd for me.  I killed
>     about 20 groups and went to insert (C-y, one at a time) them into
>     another topic.  I ended up getting copies of the 20 groups below the
>     ones I killed, and the ones I killed appeared to be gone forever.

Huh.  I'm unable to reproduce this.  Does this happen every time you
`C-w'? 

>   * Is it possible to indent the groups under a subtopic so that there is
>     alway an X-space difference between the Topic and its Groups (and
>     subtopics).  This only seems to happen with SubTopics.  

The groups have "normal" indentation in the topic, plus two spaces for 
each subtopic.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen