archives of the list? / base64 attachments?

archives of the list? / base64 attachments?

[Matt McClure]

Are messages to this list archived somewhere?

I apologize if this has been talked about hundreds of times already.  Is
it possible to attach a file to a message using base64 as the Content
Transfer Encoding?  Every attachment I've sent has been encoded as
quoted-printable by gnus.  I'm using pgnus 0.96.

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Re: archives of the list? / base64 attachments?

[Kai Großjohann]

Matt McClure <matthew.mcclure.es.99@aya.yale.edu> writes:

> Are messages to this list archived somewhere?

If so, you can find the archive starting at www.gnus.org.  I think
there is an archive.

> I apologize if this has been talked about hundreds of times already.  Is
> it possible to attach a file to a message using base64 as the Content
> Transfer Encoding?  Every attachment I've sent has been encoded as
> quoted-printable by gnus.  I'm using pgnus 0.96.

See the variable mm-content-transfer-encoding-defaults.

kai
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Re: archives of the list? / base64 attachments?

[Norbert Koch]

In message <vaf3dw9ipgw.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>,
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) wrote:

> Matt McClure <matthew.mcclure.es.99@aya.yale.edu> writes:
> 
> > Are messages to this list archived somewhere?
> 
> If so, you can find the archive starting at www.gnus.org.  I think
> there is an archive.


I dunno, whether it's still valid, but as a pointer ...

`gnus-group-archive-directory' is a variable declared in Lisp.
  -- loaded from "gnus-group"

Value: "*ftp@ftp.hpc.uh.edu:/pub/emacs/ding-list/"

Documentation:
*The address of the (ding) archives.
 

Re: archives of the list? / base64 attachments?

[Johan Kullstam]

Matt McClure <matthew.mcclure.es.99@aya.yale.edu> writes:

> Are messages to this list archived somewhere?
> 
> I apologize if this has been talked about hundreds of times already.  Is
> it possible to attach a file to a message using base64 as the Content
> Transfer Encoding?  Every attachment I've sent has been encoded as
> quoted-printable by gnus.  I'm using pgnus 0.96.

yes.  look at the variable mm-content-transfer-encoding-defaults.  put
in your .gnus.el the following incantation:

(setq mm-content-transfer-encoding-defaults
  '(("text/x-patch" 8bit)
    ("text/.*" qp-or-base64)           ;; <- i am strongly considering
                                       ;;    plain base64 here
    ("message/rfc822" 8bit)
    ("application/emacs-lisp" 8bit)
    ("application/x-patch" 8bit)
    (".*" base64)))                    ;; <- this was qp-or-base64

the doc string for qp-or-base64 claims that it will choose the `best'
encoding format but my experience is that it always uses
quoted-printable regardless.  

for compressed binaries, the quoted-printable representation is much
larger than base64.  quoted printable can easily double the size of a
binary attachment.  

quoted-printable is also slow compared to base64.  e.g., i takes
about a minute to send a 1 megabyte compressed archive with
quotedprintable compared to a second or two for base64.

quoted-printable is either broken up front or doesn't survive sending
by qmail.  

i see qp losing to base64 for all these reasons.  i don't know what
criteron is used to select `best'.  whatever it is, it seems bogus to
me.

in light of all this, i am tempted to change qp-or-base64 for text
junk to base64 too.

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J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
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Re: archives of the list? / base64 attachments?

[Jason R Mastaler]

Matt McClure <matthew.mcclure.es.99@aya.yale.edu> writes:

> Are messages to this list archived somewhere?

http://www.gnus.org/list-archives/