From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/22145 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: bad (i.e. serious) mail problems Date: 30 Mar 1999 19:12:21 -0500 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <99Mar30.101746est.13914-3@gateway.intersys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035160118 26601 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:28:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22888 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:19:19 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAB19416; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:14:45 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:13:22 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15239 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 18:13:08 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from peorth.gweep.net (ratinox@adhara.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.158]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22788 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:12:58 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from ratinox@localhost) by peorth.gweep.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) id TAA01245; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:12:21 -0500 Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "30 Mar 1999 17:34:58 +0200" Original-Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.07008 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.80) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22145 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22145 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 * Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE on Tue, 30 Mar 1999 | A message comes in via SMTP. How it gets from there to the POP server is | not defined. Maybe there are no delimiters (other than end-of-file, or | the closing of a socket) at all? There must be some means of delimiting messages in a mail spool. Using SMTP envelopes (mbox) is just one of several in common use. [...] | Right. So, the client (including pop3.el) knows that the end of the | message must be right before the dot. pop3.el, however, does not make | sure that these are the endings of messages in its output file. The '.' line is a terminator for the *protocol* (and is in fact the same terminator used in other mail-related areas). It signals the POP client that the RETR command has completed. That is all it does. It is not part of the message body. It is not a spool delimiter. It must be removed before the message is permanently stored on the local system because it is not part of the message. [...] | Let me rephrase my sentence: ... and the message store accessed by the | POP server could use any method at all, such as a file per message, or | an RDBMS. Agreed. Which is why pop3 groks the three mail spool file delimiters: SMTP envelope (mbox), MMDF, and Babyl. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v0.9.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE3AWhlgl+vIlSVSNkRAuLSAJ477ISyVkPvVNUypbjCzUPlPEczHgCeLulG w7gOGs+lA/Bbx1sZ6nZjq4s= =15st -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rat \ Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete. Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ PGP Key: at a key server near you! \