From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54484 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jesper Harder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Charset encoding brokenness Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:01:22 +0100 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067310177 23462 80.91.224.253 (28 Oct 2003 03:02:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3025@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Oct 28 04:02:55 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEK8F-0006e5-00 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:02:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AEK7i-0005vs-00; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:02:22 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AEK7e-0005vn-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:02:18 -0600 Original-Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk (pfepb.post.tele.dk [193.162.153.3]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA95A3A0075 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:02:17 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from defun.localdomain (0xc3f9535a.esnxr2.ras.tele.dk [195.249.83.90]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F4F5EE18A for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:02:15 +0100 (CET) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Jesper Harder's message of "Tue, 28 Oct 2003 02:42:20 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54484 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54484 Jesper Harder writes: > Simon Josefsson writes: > >> Jesper Harder writes: >> >>> Charset encoding is currently broken in quite a few places, viz. >>> >>> =B7 Forwarding. `C-u N C-c C-f' for N=3D1,2,4 is broken if the CTE of >>> the forwarded message is 8bit. >>> >>> =B7 Digesting. `S o p' and `S o m' is similarly broken if >>> `message-forward-as-mime' is nil. >> >> Did my C-c C-f rewrite cause this? > > N=3D1 appears to work in a Gnus from 2003-07-31, so it probably broke > that. Right. Before the rewrite N=3D1 used `mime-to-mml' -- it doesn't now, which explains why it's broken. So the question is: how to forward/digest/etc correctly without converting to mml? I think `mime-to-mml' is the wrong thing for most purposes for a variety of reasons: 1. When I ask someone to forward a message, I usually want a _verbatim_ copy, not an interpretation by Gnus. 2. `mime-to-mml' assumes that the message is actually valid MIME. 3. It's broken for pgp/mime. The last problem could probably be fixed by some special-casing. But the other two remain.