From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/49911 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: road warrior trying to simplify a mail setup Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 14:38:23 -0500 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <86fzr2ek0j.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <864r7g6e3h.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86ptq44phn.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86n0l82c2v.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1044646674 12513 80.91.224.249 (7 Feb 2003 19:37:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18hEJr-0003FX-00 for ; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 20:37:51 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18hEL9-0002Cm-00; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 13:39:11 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 07 Feb 2003 13:40:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA22744 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:39:56 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 60092 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 2003 19:38:55 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 60087 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 19:38:55 -0000 Original-Received: from gateway.intersys.com (HELO peorth.gweep.net) (198.133.74.253) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 19:38:55 -0000 Original-Received: by peorth.gweep.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id 17C8E520; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:38:23 -0500 (EST) Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: <86n0l82c2v.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> (merlyn@stonehenge.com's message of "07 Feb 2003 10:13:44 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090014 (Oort Gnus v0.14) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49911 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49911 * merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) on Fri, 07 Feb 2003 | I'm doing everything but 4 and 6 by my current setup (no live mail on | laptop, just ssh to server). I wanna know what my options are to add | #4, and maybe #6. The "IMAP" stuff sounded like it was heading in the | right direction, mixed with offline reader mode. But I need to know | what the downsides are, compared to what I've been using. Details, as you say. It was not clear that you do not keep any live mail on your notebook (the name unofficially changed when they got too hot to actually keep on one's lap :) other than what you might be composing. The kinds of setups that David and I use have all of our mail on our notebooks, with mirrors elsewhere for when necessity requires it. Even with the ammount of mail you get, even at 28.8Kb, I think you would spend less time connected (and paying) if you were to fetch your entire spool file in one lump transfer to your notebook and immediately shut down the link instead of keeping a shell open. When I was on a 28.8Kb link at home and got some 500-800 messages a day, fetchmail could fetch my spool from a POP server in usually 2-3 minutes, 5 minutes max if someone was obnoxious, and fetchmail can be configured not to retrieve files more than N octets if link speed is an issue. If you are willing to move your mail operations to your notebook, then the only times you need to be connected to a network are when you want to download your mail, when you want to run your outgoing queue, and when you want to sync your notebook and your shell server(s). I think this is the simplest overall setup. It covers cases 1 through 4. Case 5 remains an option, as long as you keep your notebook and server in sync. And the need for case 6 is eliminated. If not, then an IMAP server is the best way to go. At the least, an IMAP server is practically required for a webmail setup. -- Rat \ Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid core, Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ which, if exposed due to rupture, should PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ not be touched, inhaled, or looked at. That and five bucks will get you a small coffee at Starbucks.