From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78173 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: shr - span elements with title attribute, tooltip? Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:23:08 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <871v1tc82r.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ei5rkr6b.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sju5g5qa.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301423142 1562 80.91.229.12 (29 Mar 2011 18:25:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:25:42 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26484@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Mar 29 20:25:38 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4dbm-000651-2s for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:25:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4dbV-0003j1-BQ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:25:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4dbU-0003iq-3Q for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:25:20 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4dbK-0000uj-Og for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:25:15 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4dbK-0007Xr-1N for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:25:10 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4dbF-0005pe-RX for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:25:05 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:25:05 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:25:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEX+zNl3SWHQk6r6scb+ u83/0t7+w9MTrMgDAAACaUlEQVQ4jU2TwXbbIBBFp07FuoPTrA1yvbaF6nUsCGudnEPWsk34/0/o G7DSsBFwefNmGER8pi7JeP+TEg1vVBddInN4gD6leTjKHtY/O3IvVA+9/03z7SgzWapPKv0yYzYf Unqq5+ugV1quC2LNt8/08do267lAtNnh+7RL6vVxusI7LfSCiSUVv+2nlIlo6NJmR6rm0K0US9q8 fWgq1JJ7gFkU6vfpKAKpZ17NMzw6+zwrUdBMDQPg4EIQlFJEI0N1pBYcLAuZ44UNH5iN1j9YW2a2 Ga4bu7vyiaM2xm6vbI1hY6WOjT2I4qwN6+0VuwaKO6Jnnb0bxzJ6H+BVJAl1p9sBh3NpQynxRDPI k9Wsn12OFZAqEQrk5WnLMmIugpaSY61ITSRWbMYQmsafEYuoTBRu2OcQQl6BSDJAZO33AM3ejwhI Kg8ULrx32F9DjbEssKpgdOM3RZQcQgXegcQSGqifb6DFypOTLIIfKF41gF/BIH4lWEvxAtAEMYcw yHywAHdeAVwQwrlBSrZ0ZXau7ecKJmxrgNsKigicdV6uCIBU+A+c0y7gvNEWrS1rfcF7p8dgayu/ QAs1bN2gYc3PcsUAqAPWwZ16h5wgeSE8oaoQJyegNk4AFHJV3vajBxg9qqsKyk7Swhpf08Pc4h0c qkfNV+p33I8Ti+IsjW9XUn24d1PfnwzXJ5EfIAbUN9rq0d6KgBxwuRMK93Azusgfq9BP1LcP6I2L ecCF/JL/ZC6+NSmUCxQWFroCvMvHE8kn7bx1vdW7CsrXAAjnG25maaG+htFoIMox9V9EWos8aNVA wE1YWv4Be978G7eLAEUAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Manic Street Preachers's _Generation Terrorists_: "Stay Beautiful" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Xkl0510PkfSa7uoJ+78o26Zo6/Q= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78173 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > It's not difficult. Just render "[title: content]" instead of "content" > when the user asks to toggle the title, and give the user a way to do it > locally or globally for the whole buffer. It doesn't seem very useful to me. The common use case for "title" is to add a textual explanation for a non-textual rendering element, which is why I've implemented it for , and nothing else. > Tool tips are (arguably) one of the worst UI elements you can use > generally, as they are only intended for controls that don't have space > for labels (e.g. toolbars). They require fine control, *a mouse*, and > the user to be patient while hovering above something. There is not > even a hint that hovering will reveal a tool tip, you just have to hope. Yes. Which is why people don't put "title" on random textual objects in HTML, but virtually only on images. :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen