From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77894 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Outgoing mail defaults Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:31:58 +0100 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <87vczh4qgj.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300383633 1511 80.91.229.12 (17 Mar 2011 17:40:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26212@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Mar 17 18:40:29 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0HBU-00049z-Oo for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:40:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0HBK-0001sV-V9; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:40:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0HBJ-0001sC-FE for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:40:17 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0HBF-0005vQ-86 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:40:17 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0HBE-0007np-Gt for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:40:12 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0HB8-0003uS-Co for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:40:06 +0100 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:40:06 +0100 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:40:06 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEXTzs+2rLKlmKRMQVWG eInRTk5EAAACeElEQVQ4jUVTi5WcMAy0yRWAfC4ACxWQRS4AJPVfU0Yml/AW9tnj0WdGLqWUaqfG DJ/HjgVeokYlAXLsx6nP2qRnJxoJlA2bk0+9qJbahuHzLKAJqz+iRhvofJTabYWSCNfRjakZt7hL ay+wiem0Gg9ReCBi51ih6hl+6d3vQhHTLxYGo1YqHWtjfgo1mWJ2BgCqtLNrDCJte2Xbq7hepezU IhQ5GirYC8eBMlURqY1TVc+nssxSuv5G1nDUXbmDkBF7UM1WqUqHNhWMiSCI4FBM50CWUfZSsQgf qRNygTy4cYpYQzTOVG0XbGuECafOTOKWDINc6vNpqLziWG32jSWV7eiurkumLV8a6Gh50bNwo79A fVvdGwcnENli7qe8KAeas62qZpaOFHg3ZAWFZHoi9DpeNum5PgrhD79r7K+vkSIiAq020ODx+pqn 1xMcDkVitEXQf0+MeJpfZjWB71XI+nDhRj7tXoxX0JdQ9p0y4xqqlCcMeWZQ9iTmGCOUhV67YWY0 dEktHDF2FCweFWLE2zCGQcA9YFPkmIE/HaGI38G4cYaNiOHHnFC1QkXoNTM7j9HMHzTX6nIZoXyM WhpuiUcwZncxAGnI0/I+wHJfxW9fx9eYlweDUZmhAnW9IQ8fv8yQz8oXxhgAbVs8MF++9ZP6XvtW 0tGPSCU7NhPRCwLJBfvAiHl9AheqL2MwJjx2gqASxk8TqBnLGoMkBQDOGYpNhwKXdAEj5UxAEkDP 7DLPZ9AyHQaouKwBufj0yUelH8C1xwKoo7vMsACEn5Dd3omKtZsAHIi7fyI9fU6U+R/wQArUdBMm ddgPgFhTcpZbjm7YG+oPy/agponyVCcAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Boris's _New Album_: "Pardon?" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:As4LQ+MRA5YP0Rx52Z+ar2Kq1YQ= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77894 gmane.emacs.devel:137350 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > smtpmail can get auth-source to do 1+2 better that Customize IMO through > `auth-source-creation-prompts' and `auth-source-creation-defaults'. Hm... but we still have to set what the smtp host is somewhere? Or were you thinking that smtpmail could just ask auth-source for "give me an smtp host from your backends", which would, for most people, be a line from their ~/.authinfo file saying machine smtp.gmail.com port smtp ? That would work... hm... > Perhaps auth-source itself should be smarter when running for the first > time, asking the user if he'd like to use the Secrets API, or (on Mac OS > X) the upcoming keychain support, or an unencrypted file on Windows, or > some other auth-source backend. The default works for those who use > EPA/EPG and cache or agentize their passphrases, but otherwise it's > annoying. Yeah, auth-source could be querying the user about this stuff the first time it runs. (And it could determine whether it's the first time just by trying all the sources, and see whether any of them exist?) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen