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Oliver Scholz <alkibiades@gmx.de> writes:

> If you are satisfied with a _fair_ chance to be flawlessly readable
> at the other end, you may use UTF-8.

But the purpose of email is to _communicate_.  Why lower you chance of
cummunicating if there is no compelling technical reason to do so?

> How long it will take for Unicode to become as widespread in western
> Europe as Latin-1 is now -- I don't know. But so far it has spread
> very rapidly.

1. Application support isn't that great.  Emacs, (La)TeX and Texinfo
   don't support Unicode fully (those are some of the most important
   applications as far as I'm concerned).

2. Unicode support itself doesn't really buy me a lot if most people
   don't have fairly complete Unicode fonts (which they don't).