From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46031 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: TMDA (was: new spam functionality added) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:02:19 -0400 Organization: What did you have in mind? A short, blunt, human pyramid? Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87y9brejam.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> <873ctztyth.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> <20020801222925.A10502@mastaler.com> <02Aug5.143835edt.119445@gateway.intersystems.com> <02Aug5.174118edt.119294@gateway.intersystems.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1028649775 20849 127.0.0.1 (6 Aug 2002 16:02:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17c6nO-0005Q3-00 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:02:54 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17c6nD-0003Lf-00; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:02:43 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:03:11 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA23002 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:02:55 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 18096 invoked by alias); 6 Aug 2002 16:02:22 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 18091 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2002 16:02:22 -0000 Original-Received: from multivac.student.cwru.edu (HELO multivac.cwru.edu) (@129.22.96.25) by gnus.org with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 16:02:22 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 9761 invoked by uid 500); 6 Aug 2002 16:02:41 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (David Masterson's message of "05 Aug 2002 20:28:20 -0700") Mail-Copies-To: nobody Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46031 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46031 David Masterson wrote: > In the TMDA scenario, spammers now have to put some sort of (TBD) > auto-confirmer into place to "get the spam through". Or abuse a compromised system - but those will always be a problem anyway. > This means that the "From" or "Reply-to" address on their email now > has to be valid so that TMDA can send confirmation email to their > auto-confirmer. Actually, it's the envelope sender, which may or may not be easy for the recipient to look at, depending on all the software standing between them and their mail. Usually it's not too hard to get at if you want it, I think, but you do have to know that that's what you're looking for. Header fields can still be forged. paul