From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/34618 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Am I stupid? (was: Banner Orgy) Date: 07 Feb 2001 12:49:06 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170512 31327 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:21:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BD6D049D for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:49:58 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAC12913; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:49:37 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 07 Feb 2001 14:48:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14472 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:48:40 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from freedom.LABridge.com (home.LABridge.com [206.117.169.5]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5FCD049D for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:49:09 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from reader.local.lan (DSL02-049.LABridge.com [206.117.4.49]) by freedom.LABridge.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32759 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:52:24 -0800 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f17Kn6a07197; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:49:06 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: reader.local.lan: reader set sender to reader@newsguy.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 34 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:34618 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:34618 Ooops... sorry Per and Kai. Didn't mean to nail everyone with one of those extra messages, it was intended to go to ding only. Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes: > On 31 Jan 2001, Per Abrahamsen wrote: > > > It would make the form interface, which I assume most people use, > > more complex for very little gain. > > I wish people were using `G c' rather than `G p', but it appears they > don't. At least there are a lot of questions due to hosed group > parameters, which could have been avoided using `G c'. > > Why are people using `G p' and not `G c'? Do they not know about `G > c'? Or was the explanation not promising enough? Butting in here a bit... I think `G c' is a good way to learn how to edit Group params since you can do `G c' then look with `G p' at what was written. Soon you have an idea how it is done. Once you know how its done, then `G c' is really pretty cumbersome compared to a quick hand edit. However, this will no doubt lead to more errors. I even find myself looking at groups with `G p' for something similar to what I'm currently after, rather than use `G c'. `G c' is very nice but in fact is slow and cumbersome.