Uhm

Uhm

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

I just wrote a command to keep the X-Sent line updated in the article
buffer.  Continually.  (Timers, you know.)

I must be coming down with something nasty, although I don't actually
*feel* feverish.

`M-x gnus-start-date-timer'

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Re: Uhm

[Dan Christensen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> I just wrote a command to keep the X-Sent line updated in the article
> buffer.  Continually.  (Timers, you know.)
> 
> I must be coming down with something nasty, although I don't actually
> *feel* feverish.
> 
> `M-x gnus-start-date-timer'

Cute.  But when I run gnus-stop-date-timer I get an error:

Signaling: (void-function nnheader-delete-timer)
  nnheader-delete-timer([nil 13435 11457 809586 1 article-update-date-lapsed nil nil])
  gnus-stop-date-timer()
* call-interactively(gnus-stop-date-timer)
  execute-extended-command(nil)
  call-interactively(execute-extended-command)

Dan

PS:  Could gnus-start-date-timer take an optional argument to make it
run less frequently?  

-- 
Dan Christensen
jdc@math.jhu.edu

Re: Uhm

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

jdc@chow.mat.jhu.edu (Dan Christensen) writes:

> Cute.  But when I run gnus-stop-date-timer I get an error:
> 
> Signaling: (void-function nnheader-delete-timer)

Yup.  Fix in Quassia Gnus v0.17.

> PS:  Could gnus-start-date-timer take an optional argument to make it
> run less frequently?  

Sure.  Fix in Quassia Gnus v0.17.

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Re: Uhm

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no>:

> I just wrote a command to keep the X-Sent line updated in the article
> buffer.  Continually.  (Timers, you know.)

OK... so I'm stupid: what does this mean?

> I must be coming down with something nasty, although I don't actually
> *feel* feverish.

> `M-x gnus-start-date-timer'

Hah! I may be a dumb hick from the arctic circle, but I'm not gullible
enough to run that command! I'll been to University, I'll have you
know! 

Re: Uhm

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:

> > I just wrote a command to keep the X-Sent line updated in the article
> > buffer.  Continually.  (Timers, you know.)
> 
> OK... so I'm stupid: what does this mean?

I find that I don't want to know when an article was written.  The
Date header is useless for me.  What I want to know is how long ago
the article was written, so I have `gnus-article-date-lapsed' in
`gnus-article-display-hook'.

The new function keeps the result of this function updated
continually, to let you feel the passage of time, pulling you into the
future.  Endlessly pulling you into the future.

(Oops.  I'm quoting Laurie Anderson songs.  And Anderson was quoting
Fassbinder.  Someone please help.)

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Uhm

[Sean Doran]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> (Oops.  I'm quoting Laurie Anderson songs.  And Anderson was quoting
> Fassbinder.  Someone please help.)

You are not alone.  Standby.

This is the time.  And this is the record of the time.

This is the time.  And this is the record of the time.

	Sean. (who wonders how much software development
		is influenced by developers' tastes in music sometimes.)

Re: Uhm

[Neil Crellin]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> The new function keeps the result of this function updated
> continually, to let you feel the passage of time, pulling you into the
> future.  Endlessly pulling you into the future.
> 
> (Oops.  I'm quoting Laurie Anderson songs.  And Anderson was quoting
> Fassbinder.  Someone please help.)

White Lily.

Re: Uhm

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On 26 Nov 1997 10:30:33 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> said:

Lars> (Oops.  I'm quoting Laurie Anderson songs.  And Anderson was quoting
Lars> Fassbinder.  Someone please help.)

  History [of an article] is like an angle being blown backwards into
  the future.

Thanks, I haven't pulled out her CD's in a few years.  Definately
about time.

Wes
-- 
"Ninjas aren't dangerous.  They're more afraid of you than you are of them."

Re: Uhm

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:

> Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:
>> > I just wrote a command to keep the X-Sent line updated in the article
>> > buffer.  Continually.  (Timers, you know.)
>> 
>> OK... so I'm stupid: what does this mean?

> I find that I don't want to know when an article was written.  The
> Date header is useless for me.  What I want to know is how long ago
> the article was written, so I have `gnus-article-date-lapsed' in
> `gnus-article-display-hook'.

Does any other mailers and/or newsreaders use X-Sent? Is it included
in NOV files?

Re: Uhm

[Alan Shutko]

>>>>> "S" == Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:

S> Does any other mailers and/or newsreaders use X-Sent? Is it
S> included in NOV files?

Nope.  It doesn't exist in the message.  When you hit W T e, Gnus will
create the X-Sent header in the *Article* buffer from the Date header
and the current time.

-- 
Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> - By consent of the corrupted
The questions remain the same.  The answers are eternally variable.

Re: Uhm

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:

> > I find that I don't want to know when an article was written.  The
> > Date header is useless for me.  What I want to know is how long ago
> > the article was written, so I have `gnus-article-date-lapsed' in
> > `gnus-article-display-hook'.
> 
> Does any other mailers and/or newsreaders use X-Sent? Is it included
> in NOV files?

Nope and nope.  It's purely a Gnus display thing.  It's never sent
out. 

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Uhm

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Kurt Swanson <ksw@dna.lth.se>:

> Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:
>> >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no>:

>> > I just wrote a command to keep the X-Sent line updated in the article
>> > buffer.  Continually.  (Timers, you know.)

>> OK... so I'm stupid: what does this mean?

> X-Sent shows how long ago the message was sent.  It's only valid at
> the time the article buffer is written, unless one hits g every
> second.

I figured it would be something like this... what I can't figure, is
why it would make sense to update this automagically, as the article
is composed.

Parse error.. Re: Uhm

[Andy Eskilsson]

This is utterly cool :-) but it confuses me, it fills up the empty
line between the message-body and the headers, thus removing one of my
'navigation' points, funny how such simple stuff can get stuck so
hard.. 

So would it be possible to also insert a newline when inserting the
X-sent line? Or that maybe is a little bit complicated.. I have to
scan the letter a couple of times now to find the start of message.. 

Or simply it might not be such a jolly good idea having it permanently
turned on?

	/a

Re: Parse error.. Re: Uhm

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Andy Eskilsson <andy.eskilsson@telelogic.se> writes:

> This is utterly cool :-) but it confuses me, it fills up the empty
> line between the message-body and the headers, thus removing one of my
> 'navigation' points, funny how such simple stuff can get stuck so
> hard.. 

Yes, if the Date header wasn't displayed, that was what would happen.
Fix in Quassia Gnus v0.17.

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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen