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From: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: AUTH=PLAIN support
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 17:31:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3bp6a3v7y.fsf@jhcloos.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3wroyl5qv.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:52:08 +0100")

>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

LMI> It seems kinda weird, though.  AUTHENTICATE PLAIN is just basically a
LMI> base64-encoded version of LOGIN, so I'm not quite understanding what the
LMI> point is...

I'm sure the discourse went something like:

TLSsupporter> kill off LOGIN! kill off LOGIN! kill off LOGIN!

StatusQuo> But we need to auth against out /etc/shadow, and that
StatusQuo> requires the user send their secret to the server

and AUTH=PLAIN was the compromize.

And the TLS guys should prefer TLS client cert aaa anyway.

On the plus side, it does allow the separation of authentication and
authorization realms, so that, eg, the each support tech at example.com
could log in to the support@example.com account as themselves.  That
would allow the audit logs to show exactly who did what.

But, yes, otherwise it is just /different/ than LOGIN, not better.

-JimC
-- 
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6



  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-31 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-30  1:20 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-30 19:38 ` Tibor Simko
2010-10-30 19:41   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-30 20:22     ` Tibor Simko
2010-10-30 20:31       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-30 20:46         ` Tibor Simko
2010-10-30 22:37         ` James Cloos
2010-10-31 15:52           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-31 21:31             ` James Cloos [this message]
2010-10-31 21:45             ` Russ Allbery
2010-10-31 21:53               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-11-01 12:23             ` Tibor Simko

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