From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54316 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Required mail & news headers Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:58:12 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1066438745 4910 80.91.224.253 (18 Oct 2003 00:59:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 00:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M2857=ding+2Daccount=gmane.org@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Oct 18 02:59:00 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AAfQq-0008NJ-00 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:59:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AAfQp-0003d4-05 for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:58:59 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AAfQk-0003cx-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:58:54 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (quimby.gnus.org [80.91.224.244]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459DE3A00C3 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:58:54 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AAfQj-0002QK-00 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:58:53 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 20 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: quimbies.gnus.org Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1066438733 9266 80.91.231.2 (18 Oct 2003 00:58:53 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 00:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Nobukazu Takemura's _Child and Magic_: "Travels of Italy" Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEXhbRDdLgXvmS3mTgaX IQzJIQvhUYshAAACWUlEQVR4nE2TwXLrIAxFFYj3oTZ7StI9tsz+dYr3prb+/1feFXaS4hkY6yDp IgTF1zBtIoqRSin0Gikkniw7Ju6dG97AHH5fv22Z34BatK8Ney2TAhMOjzZfbzNZy6MCm8IzVqCr 7NhxAKh45jBkyxIDM/8NFdsOa2KwB1j2Z+7Dlaew9DMZU4qJp9pT30N+5mahaP94QNq+Adh1N9Gl +ATIeCkQHYOGurRIsEVISbynazvvWQ0AdYpkMwDZ6a4JTAukTpCS06x1YUhkMpYtmXtvKfDOryLm tWU2ocsovH0BK2s8CkD/DsUn6NbDQ7XcdZ11L1bf5oOg6gmhcvKJWeTG73FdcbXZdDiqyMeZTMFc xoG6lGPs4HGGgj2XAo9OtkD5DfSqSlG53HI/kzN76C11OE4lDdhnH4V5GY72OMHeN1HzoygoSwOV eZQGRteXMtBQvtkCCEzDt9Mh8kDvlv3nAInoVrZePRwuj+z4gxiahPNeysYMn2kvlPA1D5i+c1la +o9HoZZOfG1J2JeWBbEAErHkukGwlqPHC6kuKphQXI9P2l4vpgT5vRKnaXRSFVS1V8HJIRidGu+M 3+0AeGSJLovsNIYYL77qJ72efMDLVMC4ZcgaJXeyqOypgUIfaLVPh0gVipVM2PkJjx7t6m9Svfeu 7ksVdHIoAGjN9TL6Lddand8FZTly9BlvWLXK6CsKK55kXXYk90F8j/4Zt1FwvF3gIaqKqfYJ7YCe dn503puy1Ip3mXRo09s2sUvUbe3O1Y659Qil/kb22trHNvvZU5S2TAlg+A/FHJuSGhKVGwAAAABJ RU5ErkJggg== User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nUUkZFWTATTmg/zycdQXP7tkd6Y= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54316 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54316 Hanak David writes: > I discovered, that the contents of 'message-required-headers' are always > rendered *before* composing the message, as opposed to > 'message-required-news-headers' and 'message-required-mail-headers', which > are affected by the value of 'message-generate-headers-first': Yes... the former variable was added a few minutes before Gnus 5.10 was released (to implement some new stuff about hidden headers). However, there were bugs in that code, so a few seconds before Gnus 5.10 was released, most of that was reverted, but that variable remains. We'll have another go at it in No Gnus. The goal is to be able to present the user with a message buffer that has no (or almost no) headers visible. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen