From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/21277 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Get \201 when I edit mail Date: 19 Feb 1999 15:19:20 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035159413 22175 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:16:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from fisher.math.uh.edu (fisher.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.35]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17816 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:28:55 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAB28753; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:27:47 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:27:43 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18430 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:26:31 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from quimbies.gnus.org (larsi@ppp046.uio.no [129.240.240.47]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17704 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:26:16 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by quimbies.gnus.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA05362; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:25:45 +0100 Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Reading: Italo Calvinos _Usynlige byer_ Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Hallvard B Furuseth's message of "15 Feb 1999 03:22:20 +0100" User-Agent: Gnus/5.070077 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.77) XEmacs/21.2(beta3) (Aglaia) X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > You mean you _haven't_ bitched that MULE makes it hard to work with > files that have explicit character set information?? Not a lot; no. :-) The Mule stuff is sometimes so complex that once you've identified where things go wrong, you've also added things to work around the weirdness, and then you can't reproduce the bug any more. Most of the problems are nigh-impossible to reproduce outside of the particular situation you're in. I remember, for instance, when doing an `insert-buffer-substring' from the " *server...*" buffer to the " *nntpd*" buffer and there was an iso-8859-1 character in the former buffer, then the latter buffer would end up with the original text, plus "\n\n random-character" at the end of the buffer. (This was the cause of the "Gnus hangs forever when entering some groups" bug that plagued us for a month or so.) I was completely, totally unable to reproduce it outside of Gnus, and it was completely reproducible inside Gnus. RMS, Handa (I think) and I weren't able to fix it, so I worked around it. *shrug* -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen