nnkiboze and grepping

nnkiboze and grepping

[Harry Putnam]

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Subject: Re: nnkiboze and grepping
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From: Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>
Date: 18 Mar 1998 21:06:16 -0800
In-Reply-To: Justin Sheehy's message of "29 Dec 1997 20:04:10 -0500"
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Justin Sheehy <justin@linus.mitre.org> writes:

> Harry Putnam <reader@super.zippo.com> writes:
> 
> > I am not interested in "grepping a newsfeed"
> 
> 
> I think that you are, but you just aren't familiar with that
> terminology.  Grepping refers to searching through text files using
> regexps, and "a newsfeed" in this context means a set of directories
> containing articles.
> 
> With that knowledge, try reading the nnkiboze section again and see if
> it can do what you wish for.
> 
> -- 
> Justin Sheehy
> 
> In a cloud bones of steel.
   

No one is answering, maybe sick of my questions or maybe not many people
actually use nnkiboze or know much about it.

I am interested in using it as you suggested in your posts in this
thread.  That is,  as a way to search for information and have the finds
assembled in a summary view.

Your comments above seem to indicate that nnkiboze could be aimed at any
groups in gnus, not just nntp groups.  Is that true?

In some of my earlier experiments I was able to get a search started but
nothing ever turned up in the Kibo group - now I can't get anything at
all to start.


Following the Info pages on kiboze as well as I can here is what, happens:

1) make group with 'G k' name it  (kibo)

2) give gnus a regexp  telling what groups to include.

I have had a hard time figuring out what gnus really wants here.  Have
limited experience with regexp, so finally narrowed down to one group to
experiment with.  Alt.test.yer.posts, so every thing could be tried out
with out taking for ever.  I guess I am getting the format right.  If I
want to add more I do it with the 'or' (\|) operator like:

^nnn\.mmm\|^yyy\.xxx$

What I have actually put in is below
^alt\.test\.yer\.posts$

3)Gnus askes: 
Match on header: b  (body) <RET>
Gnus askes 
Match on body (string): AMAZING  

(at this point I opened a post from
test.yer.posts. and found something in there to use.)

4)Gnus askes for another string <RET> I just hit ret

5)Gnus askes 
Match on header: <RET>  again just <ret>

6) The group appears in the lineup - 

7) run M-x nnkiboze-generate-groups

The nntp server is read but no messages come to the kibo group even
though I know for sure there is an unread message with the word
(amongst) other 'AMAZING' (no quotes) in the body.

Questions:

1)
If I want to edit the regexp that tells gnus which groups to include,
where is it located?  I searched the /News dir. but found nothing.
It is quite a pain to go through the whole proceeding again to change
that regexp.

2) What am I doing wrong that no messages end up in 'kibo'

3) Can nnkiboze be aimed at nnml and other groups?

4) Can nnkiboze be run in agent mode (unplugged) when the messages are
on disk?  It seems like it wants to work after a 'J s' but I haven't
been able to pull any thing into he kibo group. So Gnus just tells me
"no new news when I try to enter the kibo group.  

It seems all wants to work but I am not giving the right syntax of
something on the SCORE file:  Here is how it looks:

(("body"
  ("AMAZING " nil nil r)))
Checking in alt.test.yer.posts to make sure here is the silly text from an
article there:
THE AMAZING SEX MACHINE

Gnus does show a message indicating it is checking alt.test.yer.posts
But still nothing comes to the kibo group.

-- 

Harry Putnam  reader@newsguy.com