From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52376 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: mail-sources backend specific? Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 15:55:07 -0400 Organization: What did you have in mind? A short, blunt, human pyramid? Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <84u1cknes9.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <87fznxzemr.fsf@wmipf.in-berlin.de> <84d6j1bhn3.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <87el3hxw5b.fsf@wmipf.in-berlin.de> <84isstiewq.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <87he8d752z.fsf@wmipf.in-berlin.de> <87he8cav01.fsf@wmipf.in-berlin.de> <8465ost014.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <87znm3g5qz.fsf@wmipf.in-berlin.de> <847k97zr1k.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <87r87fph6s.fsf@wmipf.in-berlin.de> <84el3eet60.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84znm0ujee.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052251579 13548 80.91.224.249 (6 May 2003 20:06:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 20:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M920@lists.math.uh.edu Tue May 06 22:06:16 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19D8hb-0003WA-00 for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 22:06:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19D8iV-0008Du-00; Tue, 06 May 2003 15:07:11 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19D8Wu-0008Ck-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 06 May 2003 14:55:14 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 535 invoked by alias); 6 May 2003 19:55:10 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 530 invoked from network); 6 May 2003 19:55:09 -0000 Original-Received: from multivac.student.cwru.edu (HELO multivac.cwru.edu) (@129.22.114.26) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 6 May 2003 19:55:09 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 11819 invoked by uid 500); 6 May 2003 19:55:29 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <84znm0ujee.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann's?= message of "Tue, 06 May 2003 18:31:05 +0200") Mail-Copies-To: nobody Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52376 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52376 kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Gro=DFjohann) wrote: > prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes: >> nnmaildir does not use nnoo, and its server parameters are not >> prefixed with "nnmaildir-". It does not use global variables to >> represent its server parameters. So there is no problem here: > > Well, err, it sounds as if the mail-sources trick wouldn't work for > nnmaildir in that case. It's not such a big deal for that particular variable, since you can safely deliver messages directly to nnmaildir groups. > Oh! There is already a mechanism for local variables -- the > buffers. So do people think it would work to set the variables local > to the right buffers? What buffer is nnchoke-request-scan called from? That's where mail-sources will be used, I think. > Complicated. I don't like it. But I think it's just the current > design. Is there a chance for making it more sane? I still think the situation could be greatly improved by moving the work of nnmail-get-new-mail out of backends and into Gnus proper. It would be a lot of work, but it could be done with minimal changes to existing configurations while enabling all the flexibility we'd like. paul