From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45052 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus and the Sender: field Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 20:22:07 -0400 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87n0uh2sed.fsf@bdi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1022804760 18013 127.0.0.1 (31 May 2002 00:26:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 00:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17DaEy-0004gP-00 for ; Fri, 31 May 2002 02:26:00 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17DaEh-0004NL-00; Thu, 30 May 2002 19:25:43 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 30 May 2002 19:25:58 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA21810 for ; Thu, 30 May 2002 19:25:48 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 21490 invoked by alias); 31 May 2002 00:25:28 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 21484 invoked from network); 31 May 2002 00:25:28 -0000 Original-Received: from h0060978d8c91.ne.client2.attbi.com (HELO peorth.gweep.net) (qjqrnz@24.218.202.161) by gnus.org with SMTP; 31 May 2002 00:25:28 -0000 Original-Received: (from ratinox@localhost) by peorth.gweep.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g4V0M8P03238; Thu, 30 May 2002 20:22:08 -0400 Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: <87n0uh2sed.fsf@bdi.com> (adb@bdi.com's message of "30 May 2002 18:16:26 -0400") Original-Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45052 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45052 * adb@bdi.com (Aaron D. Ball) on Thu, 30 May 2002 | and that Gnus should respect the user's judgment as to what goes in | the Sender: header, since it doesn't know anything at all about | whether or two email addresses describe the same person. I pointed out something a couple of weeks ago when this went around. I will point it out again: the vast majority of users have no clue what they are doing. They have no idea that headers other than From, To and Subject even exist, and many do not fill in Subject headers, a MUST in RFC 2822. Heck, most have never heard of RFCs in general. Gnus cannot and should not trust the user by default. The user must prove to Gnus that he is neither ignorant nor incompetent. -- Rat \ Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ That and five bucks will get you a small coffee at Starbucks.