From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/25649 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vladimir Volovich Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: message-newline-and-reformat and supercite Date: 05 Oct 1999 10:45:10 +0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035162996 15118 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:16:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05352 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 03:01:45 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAB23435; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:57:37 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 05 Oct 1999 01:58:37 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA27910 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:58:25 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from relay2.vsu.ru (postfix@mail.vsu.ru [62.76.169.17]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA05311 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:53:51 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by relay2.vsu.ru (Postfix, from userid 5) id 852221924; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:53:15 +0400 (MSD) Original-Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01037; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:45:10 +0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fran=E7ois?= Pinard's message of "04 Oct 1999 18:41:22 -0400" User-Agent: Gnus/5.070097 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.97) Emacs/20.4 Original-Lines: 67 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:25649 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:25649 "FP" == Francois Pinard writes: >> message-newline-and-reformat (M-RET) does not work with supercited >> messages, which is very inconvenient: i find this function VERY >> useful in general, so it would be great to make it SC-aware. FP> How do you use it? well, i just put cursor to the place where i wish to break the quote, and press M-RET (as i did just now ;). Then gnus automagically inserts a prefix (` FP> ' in this case) behind the first line, and re-formats the rest of the quoted paragraph (making it both look beautigul and reserving a bit of space :), and puts the point in the convenient place, so i can type an answer immediately without moving cursor. FP> I just tried it, and it seems be convenient for inserting FP> comments within a reply, maybe. Yet, it leaves two white lines FP> before point, which is surely one too much. Also, it does not FP> seem to properly discover the fill prefix for the following FP> paragraph, at least in my little tries. The amount of extra work FP> needed to repair these things, even if tiny, outweighs the FP> benefits of using the command, at first glance. But since you FP> underlined `VERY', above, I guess I may be missing something? FP> :-) Well, did you re-defined the message-newline-and-reformat function before trying? Let me give an example of how it works for me. 1) the quoted paragraph, as it looked after following up (prepared by supercite). Cursor is shown by `_' (at the first line, just after the question sign), and is at the place where i wished to insert a reply: FP> How do you use it?_ I just tried it, and it seems be convenient FP> for inserting comments within a reply, maybe. Yet, it leaves two FP> white lines before point, which is surely one too much. Also, it FP> does not seem to properly discover the fill prefix for the FP> following paragraph, at least in my little tries. The amount of FP> extra work needed to repair these things, even if tiny, outweighs FP> the benefits of using the command, at first glance. But since FP> you underlined `VERY', above, I guess I may be missing something? FP> :-) 2) when i press M-RET, the paragraph looks like: FP> How do you use it? _ FP> I just tried it, and it seems be convenient for inserting FP> comments within a reply, maybe. Yet, it leaves two white lines FP> before point, which is surely one too much. Also, it does not FP> seem to properly discover the fill prefix for the following FP> paragraph, at least in my little tries. The amount of extra work FP> needed to repair these things, even if tiny, outweighs the FP> benefits of using the command, at first glance. But since you FP> underlined `VERY', above, I guess I may be missing something? FP> :-) Note that the rest of the quote was micely reformatted, and cursor was put at the convenient place. Doesn't this work for you? Best regards, -- Vladimir. -- "What terrible way to die." "There are no good ways." -- Sulu and Kirk, "That Which Survives", stardate unknown