From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/24742 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mike McEwan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: 2 Agent behaviors Date: 21 Aug 1999 11:26:27 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035162256 10401 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:04:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02832 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAB15197; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 05:33:58 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 21 Aug 1999 05:34:15 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21093 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 05:34:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02794 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from lotusland.demon.co.uk ([158.152.62.156]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11I8SW-000HFM-0A for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:33:12 +0000 Original-Received: from mike by lotusland.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11I8TS-0000Ha-00 for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:34:10 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Harry Putnam's message of "19 Aug 1999 17:59:02 -0700" User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) XEmacs/21.2 (Shinjuku) Original-Lines: 53 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24742 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24742 Harry Putnam writes: > PartI: > > What the heck is wrong on my end to cause this behavior? > > Start gnus run J s (download to agent) go unplugged and view the > oldest messages in gnu.emacs.gnus (by entering C-u ) > > Oldest displayed article is July 27. Close gnus close emacs. > Restart emacs then `M-x gnus-unplugged'. > > Gnus starts... enter gnu.emacs.gnus with `C-u ': > Oldest displayed article is Jul 13 > > Why the different displays? And why aren't articles downloaded since > gnus-0.91 release install (approx July 4) being displayed? > Just a thought, it would appear a couple of others have been caught out with this, but do you have any `groups' files in your `agent.lib' directory for the server in question? If so, and you also have an `active' file, delete (or rename) the `groups' file. It would appear that Lars has changed things such that the active ranges for newsgroups are now *always* stored in an `active' file regardless of whether the news server is responding to a `LIST ACTIVE group' or a 'GROUP group' command. Responses to the `GROUP' command are now converted to 'LIST ACTIVE' format prior to being stored in `~/News/agent/server/agent.lib/active'. When a group is being `activated' offline, I think it uses the`groups' file in preference to `active', if one exists. > PartII: > > One of my agent categories, downloads messages who's subjects begin > with 'Re: ' > > All the messages whos subjects do not begin with 'Re: ' have only > headers downloaded. All as it should be. But now I am accumulating > many bodyless messages that I would like to get rid of. > > Agent expiry seems to have no controls other than setting a cutoff date. > Deletion is not allowed in nnpt groups. > > How are people getting rid of unwanted Headers? Don't think there is anything you can do here, given the nature of nntp groups. Perhaps you should periodically copy all the articles you wish to keep to some kind of 'group.archive' group and then expire them all away in the original group. -- Mike.