From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/17373 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "=?koi8-r?b?98zBxMnNydIg98/Mz9fJ3g==?= (Vladimir Volovich)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: v0.32: great! Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:18:02 +0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035156085 581 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:21:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07056 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 06:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAF05553; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 05:11:12 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 05:40:05 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from Post-Office.UH.EDU (pmdf@Post-Office.UH.EDU [129.7.1.20]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA10761 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 05:39:57 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.1-12 #U2811) with ESMTP id <0EZS007MHAYECN@Post-Office.UH.EDU> for ding@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 05:39:51 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from cc.vsu.ru (root@ns.vsu.relarn.ru [194.226.24.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07048 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 06:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cc.vsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id OAA27466 for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:35:30 +0400 Original-Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA08307; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:18:02 +0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.070032 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.32) Emacs/20.3 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17373 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17373 Hi, v0.32 finally appears VERY nice, thanks a lot! I'll report later about each bug (whether it was fixed). Most important for me was a fix for multibyte in nnmbox backend. A few things still wanted: * fix the generation of From header wrt the quoting the encoded-words. * in v0.32, the multipart messages (including multipart/alternative) in nnmbox stopped displayed correctly: i see the "raw" message body instead of parts; i did not check other backends. In v0.31 this was Ok, so some change in 0.32 broke this. Pressing C-d, however, makes it possible to see some parts correctly. For multipart/alternative, selecting the part after C-d shows me "raw" (unparsed) html without mail headers [i do not have W3, but in 0.31 the did not try to be displayed]. * is it possible to say Gnus to not encode-word the headers for some newsgroups? I.e., if my message is in koi8-r, and i'm writing to some particular newsgroup, i'd like that subjects (and other fields) should remain in an 8-bit koi8-r encoding. Best regards, -- Vladimir. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/17389 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: v0.32: great! Date: 24 Sep 1998 19:18:07 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035156098 661 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:21:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16528 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAF07221; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:25:19 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:53:55 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA19556 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:53:18 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sparky.gnus.org (ppp065.uio.no [129.240.240.70]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15941 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by sparky.gnus.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA10176; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:52:28 +0200 Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Reading: James Tiptree Jr.'s _Up the Walls of the World_ X-Now-Playing: Tsunami's _The Heart's Tremolo_: "Cowed by the Bla Bla" Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-5?b?stvQ1Njc2OAgst7b3tLY5ydz?= message of "Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:18:02 +0400" User-Agent: Gnus/5.070033 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.33) Emacs/20.3 X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > * fix the generation of From header wrt the quoting the encoded-words. Your From header is From: "=?koi8-r?b?98zBxMnNydIg98/Mz9fJ3g==?= (Vladimir Volovich)" which looks OK to me... Did you set it to that "manually"? > * in v0.32, the multipart messages (including multipart/alternative) > in nnmbox stopped displayed correctly: i see the "raw" message body > instead of parts; i did not check other backends. Hm. Multiparts look ok to me after applying Zhu's patches. So this is probably fixed in 0.33. > * is it possible to say Gnus to not encode-word the headers for some > newsgroups? I.e., if my message is in koi8-r, and i'm writing to > some particular newsgroup, i'd like that subjects (and other fields) > should remain in an 8-bit koi8-r encoding. You should be able to set `rfc2047-default-charset' in the group params, for instance. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/17390 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "=?koi8-r?b?98zBxMnNydIg98/Mz9fJ3g==?= (Vladimir Volovich)" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: v0.32: great! Date: 24 Sep 1998 22:24:10 +0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035156099 662 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:21:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17215 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:36:55 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAF07444; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:58:18 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:27:05 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA21118 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:26:55 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from cc.vsu.ru (root@ns.vsu.relarn.ru [194.226.24.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16866 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cc.vsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id WAA02219 for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:24:33 +0400 Original-Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA22330; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:24:10 +0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "24 Sep 1998 19:18:07 +0200" Original-Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070032 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.32) Emacs/20.3 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17390 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17390 "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: LMI> Your From header is LMI> From: "=?koi8-r?b?98zBxMnNydIg98/Mz9fJ3g==?= (Vladimir LMI> Volovich)" LMI> which looks OK to me... Hmm. But you said that according to RFC, encoded-words should not appear inside quotes. ;-) I'd like my From in this case to look like From: =?koi8-r?b?98zBxMnNydIg98/Mz9fJ3g==?= (Vladimir Volovich) i.e. without (unnecessary and rfc-illegal) quotes. LMI> Did you set it to that "manually"? I set (setq user-full-name " (Vladimir Volovich)") (setq message-from-style 'angles) >> * is it possible to say Gnus to not encode-word the headers for >> some newsgroups? I.e., if my message is in koi8-r, and i'm writing >> to some particular newsgroup, i'd like that subjects (and other >> fields) should remain in an 8-bit koi8-r encoding. LMI> You should be able to set `rfc2047-default-charset' in the group LMI> params, for instance. It is already set to 'koi8-r, and this does not affect (not-)encoding of headers, but only the message body. I.e. if my message body is in koi8-r-encodable charset, and rfc2047-default-charset is set to 'koi8-r, then gnus (correctly) uses 8-bit transfer encoding. But headers are still encoded in koi8-r (perhaps, correctly, because headers and message body are generally independent). Or should gnus not encode headers if rfc2047-default-charset is set to koi8-r? If so, it behaves not like it should. :-) Best regards, -- Vladimir. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/17428 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans de Graaff Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: v0.32: great! Date: 26 Sep 1998 11:15:22 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87g1dfdyl1.fsf@graaff.xs4all.nl> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035156130 883 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:22:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19666 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 03:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAF18270; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:34:01 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 02:02:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA26123 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 02:02:34 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from graaff.xs4all.nl (qmailr@graaff.xs4all.nl [194.109.62.76]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA19551 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 03:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 3785 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Sep 1998 09:15:23 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: ,i^c$X{l+r}VV%(bl{^[ writes: > Your From header is > > From: "=?koi8-r?b?98zBxMnNydIg98/Mz9fJ3g==?= (Vladimir Volovich)" > > > which looks OK to me... Did you set it to that "manually"? On an XEmacs 20.4 without MULE the summary buffer shows only 'koi8-r' as the author name. Hans