From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80786 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Use of gnutls-cli breaks new verizon setting Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:05:28 +0100 Message-ID: References: <847h15ielh.fsf@davestoy.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325883954 19590 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2012 21:05:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 21:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M29068@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Jan 06 22:05:49 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjGyy-0003PK-3A for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:05:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RjGyp-0000Ea-DD; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:05:39 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RjGyo-0000EQ-AA for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:05:38 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RjGyn-00021V-7i for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:05:38 -0600 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjGyl-0006K9-QY for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:05:35 +0100 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RjGyf-0004L7-Uj; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:05:30 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEUvLzEjIiQcHB36+fmy sLJYV1kTEhMICAioFD/oAAACRUlEQVQ4jXVTQY7bMAykAzhnSUB6jgjU+wC59wUk3Z2u1HsNhP6B /f0OZSebRVsmligPORRJk0TmSwzptqks7d+EZGVTQgj5vH0REhHfJyDj+/IFqJ31l5IUejcvXpRS LrWv1Nd6iWOe3l6ACunY+L7EFMbpW6OkMKY8sSfnuB9rLSnn29AAlXwStoOIwwbS7nreKDbkR+eo M9MJLKvMfc3n3SMoIcE200QDkFw/AdwuxbESnby3bngAIZU4Knoa5Nrr/cdcQ8ofeOKYCigckJJG +iVyEvkYY4jgqzXXCXH6giKKbN+n4R5R41wTGFKCToL7bbrIPdcbmUvM9XzvKm2LHNWRpsAM2rrS JusBHPuy6wAeB3RGdVmaMwBZEADOWGa3HJrQ1vamixjUY/1tHX4kL8JI+OdyJSJLxLPMKBuj6Mze X4mZTIfFOmYeZizsFAUtukwdlTwRwWJmg/6qkTDh40DPK6rj4GJAbb0aXWqJFPRrgJNlb2mycPGw QBHROjAaq4CBxtbiYBKBCD1gts73KDd8lZEK6Uelp855gz7Bx0LgqzrtZsiqAc57AGpvEXe3tNY5 76zGxwvNuPk3N9QJDzJnTY4bgKvhFZJpgNd02+khqg3EO+Cd1+BwQ3CkNDQq9UA8xOg6Q3orHqhF 2snsU2d08Hl6Ao1bjtzoIWDG1cB53Jx0Bo46q4oKaBKoK7pcdXJzmzaYNF+YaAswXDqpqQ0Loerg UGnzk3V8sGM+UorhU3R4YJKIwt+S1PNfQJP/An8AJoP4jtwkMxMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Corrupted's _Llenandose de Gusanos (1)_: "Sangre-Humanos" In-Reply-To: <847h15ielh.fsf@davestoy.home> (Dave Goldberg's message of "Fri, 06 Jan 2012 00:28:58 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1RjGyf-0004L7-Uj MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1326488730.4497@EoUWte+RzGho4I/zo95ixg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80786 Archived-At: david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg) writes: > Verizon recently (finally!) announced support, soon to be required, > for SSL on POP3 and SMTP. However things are weird. I did not have > gnutls-cli on my system, so the pop3 setting found openssl and that > worked fine. Smtpmail seems to insist on using gnutls-cli, with no > option for openssl. So I installed gnutls-cli and things break. > > For pop3, it's called as > > gnutls-cli -p 995 --insecure incoming.verizon.net Are you trying to use STARTTLS or TLS? What's your mail-sources stream conf for the pop source? > And for some reason, I get an error that my user is invalid. But if I > set a debug-on-entry for pop3-logon and step through, it works fine. > Seems like some odd race condition. It works for me in Emacs 23 with STARTTLS, at least. > For smtpmail, it's called as > > gnutls-cli -s -p 465 outgoing.verizon.net > > and this just hangs. If I do that at the command line, I see why - it > connects to the server and prints a message saying "simple client > mode" but no banner from the server. If I remove the -s, I get the > banner from the server. However the -s is hardcoded into starttls.el. > Why? Do I need it? While I'd prefer to not have a locally hacked > file or function definition, if that's what I have to do I will but if > that can be made optional, it would be nice. I'm guessing that the SMTP server does not do STARTTLS, but plain TLS instead... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/