From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57262 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matthias Andree Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: mx.gnus.org being very strict Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:10:11 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87ad0p4p57.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <20040503192543.GB21891@fencepost> <8765ba0zup.fsf@dod.no> <87isf6achy.fsf@dod.no> <8765b5pktg.fsf@dod.no> <87ekps5hcu.fsf@dod.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084273863 18199 80.91.224.253 (11 May 2004 11:11:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 11:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5802@lists.math.uh.edu Tue May 11 13:10:54 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BNV9x-0003Tc-00 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:10:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BNV9T-0000eE-00; Tue, 11 May 2004 06:10:23 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BNV9O-0000e9-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 11 May 2004 06:10:18 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BNV9N-0000ad-9a for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 11 May 2004 06:10:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (krusty.dt.e-technik.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.163.1]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6693A01F4 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 06:10:16 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org (krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.163.1]) by mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF74292DD for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:10:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2906BB3D5 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:10:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from merlin.emma.line.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (m2a2.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10105-02 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:10:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 94B24BB3D8; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:10:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87ekps5hcu.fsf@dod.no> (Steinar Bang's message of "Mon, 10 May 2004 19:20:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at m2a2.dyndns.org Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57262 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57262 Steinar Bang writes: > IMO with attitudes like this, changing the MX sounds like a better > approach. As written before, early rejection of malformatted mail prevents it from disappearing in black holes like antivirus, firewall or antispam software later in the transport. The _robust_ approach is not to send out such malformatted mail, and that's what mx.gnus.org did. You may see it as inconvenient, but it's a sane approach. -- Matthias Andree Encrypted mail welcome: my GnuPG key ID is 0x052E7D95