* A message/rfc822 test
@ 1998-12-17 12:30 Robert Bihlmeyer
1998-12-17 14:16 ` Colin Rafferty
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From: Robert Bihlmeyer @ 1998-12-17 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
appended is a message/rfc822 part. Gnus should:
* display it inline by default (or at least make this possible, always
selecting "View in this buffer" from the menu is very tedious)
* treat it with any MIME handling normally done on messages: (header
and message decoding)
Robbe
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From: Robert Bihlmeyer <e9426626@stud2.tuwien.ac.at>
To: robbe@mars.tuwien.ac.at
Subject: Embedded MIME message (äöü)
Date: 17 Dec 1998 13:18:26 +0100
Message-ID: <lfaf0nm06l.fsf@mars.zserv.tuwien.ac.at>
This is the embedded message
Quöted unreadable is in füll äffect
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* Re: A message/rfc822 test
1998-12-17 12:30 A message/rfc822 test Robert Bihlmeyer
@ 1998-12-17 14:16 ` Colin Rafferty
1998-12-17 15:23 ` Karl Kleinpaste
1998-12-17 15:53 ` Robert Bihlmeyer
1998-12-17 17:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-17 23:53 ` Kai.Grossjohann
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From: Colin Rafferty @ 1998-12-17 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
I don't know if you realized it, but the Content-Transfer-Encoding:
header of your included message was not included, so it really did end
up being quoted-unreadable.
Robert Bihlmeyer writes:
> appended is a message/rfc822 part. Gnus should:
> * display it inline by default (or at least make this possible, always
> selecting "View in this buffer" from the menu is very tedious)
I agree completely. A lot of people who send me mail will forward a
message and type in some responses. I hate this. I would love for
`b' to put the other message inline.
Of course, maybe I just haven't found the right variable to setq.
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Colin
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* Re: A message/rfc822 test
1998-12-17 14:16 ` Colin Rafferty
@ 1998-12-17 15:23 ` Karl Kleinpaste
1998-12-17 15:55 ` Colin Rafferty
1998-12-17 15:53 ` Robert Bihlmeyer
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From: Karl Kleinpaste @ 1998-12-17 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
Colin Rafferty writes:
> I don't know if you realized it, but the Content-Transfer-Encoding:
> header of your included message was not included, so it really did end
> up being quoted-unreadable.
Hm, not as I received it here. The header for the whole message contains:
Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108)
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="Multipart_Thu_Dec_17_13:20:29_1998-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
And the embedded message contains:
Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you didn't get this, I suspect some transport has bitten you badly.
Robert Bihlmeyer writes:
>> appended is a message/rfc822 part. Gnus should:
>> * display it inline by default (or at least make this possible, always
>> selecting "View in this buffer" from the menu is very tedious)
Colin Rafferty writes:
> I agree completely. A lot of people who send me mail will forward a
> message and type in some responses.
Sometimes, I would like to be able to do this, but `C-d' to explode
the message into an ephemeral group has been pretty good to me so far.
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* Re: A message/rfc822 test
1998-12-17 15:23 ` Karl Kleinpaste
@ 1998-12-17 15:55 ` Colin Rafferty
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From: Colin Rafferty @ 1998-12-17 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Karl Kleinpaste writes:
> Colin Rafferty writes:
>> I don't know if you realized it, but the Content-Transfer-Encoding:
>> header of your included message was not included, so it really did end
>> up being quoted-unreadable.
> Hm, not as I received it here....
> If you didn't get this, I suspect some transport has bitten you badly.
My error, it was there.
My problem was a combination of Gnus misleading me and me not reading
accurately. I guess I expected Gnus to handle the MIME stuff
appropriately in the *mm* buffer, and then missed what I expected not
see.
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Colin
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* Re: A message/rfc822 test
1998-12-17 14:16 ` Colin Rafferty
1998-12-17 15:23 ` Karl Kleinpaste
@ 1998-12-17 15:53 ` Robert Bihlmeyer
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From: Robert Bihlmeyer @ 1998-12-17 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
>>>>> On 17 Dec 1998 09:16:07 -0500
>>>>> Colin Rafferty <craffert@ms.com> said:
Colin> I don't know if you realized it, but the
Colin> Content-Transfer-Encoding: header of your included message was
Colin> not included, so it really did end up being quoted-unreadable.
Hmm, the *part* headers (the block before the first empty line) had no
C-T-E, but the part contents included the *message* headers (between
first and second empty line), which had C-T-E amongst them. I think
this is according to the standard, and that Gnus should respect this
(i.e. decode q-p et cetera).
It seems as if Gnus would simply not realize, that the embedded
content is a message on its own, and that it should get the same
treatment as a "proper" (toplevel) message (act on MIME headers,
decode 8bit headers, do header-highlighting, and other washing stuff).
Robbe
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* Re: A message/rfc822 test
1998-12-17 12:30 A message/rfc822 test Robert Bihlmeyer
1998-12-17 14:16 ` Colin Rafferty
@ 1998-12-17 17:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-17 23:53 ` Kai.Grossjohann
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-12-17 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
Robert Bihlmeyer <e9426626@stud2.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
> appended is a message/rfc822 part. Gnus should:
> * display it inline by default (or at least make this possible, always
> selecting "View in this buffer" from the menu is very tedious)
Well, perhaps.
> * treat it with any MIME handling normally done on messages: (header
> and message decoding)
Yup. Fix in Pterodactyl Gnus v0.69.
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* Re: A message/rfc822 test
1998-12-17 12:30 A message/rfc822 test Robert Bihlmeyer
1998-12-17 14:16 ` Colin Rafferty
1998-12-17 17:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1998-12-17 23:53 ` Kai.Grossjohann
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From: Kai.Grossjohann @ 1998-12-17 23:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
Robert Bihlmeyer <e9426626@stud2.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
> Hi,
>
> appended is a message/rfc822 part. Gnus should:
> * display it inline by default (or at least make this possible, always
> selecting "View in this buffer" from the menu is very tedious)
There is mm-inline-media-tests which you can frob if you like.
kai
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