* Trouble with gnus customize
@ 2006-03-11 22:49 leandro noferini
2006-04-12 4:49 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: leandro noferini @ 2006-03-11 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Ciao a tutti,
I have a trouble with the Gnus Customize function ("G c" keys) because I
cannot edit any field in the buffer and I get the error
Text is read-only: Attempt to change text outside editable field
I am using No Gnus v0.4 on GNU/Linux from debian unstable on a power pc
computer.
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Ciao
leandro
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-03-11 22:49 Trouble with gnus customize leandro noferini
@ 2006-04-12 4:49 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2006-04-12 14:17 ` Manoj Srivastava
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2006-04-12 4:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
leandro noferini <lnoferin@cybervalley.org> writes:
> I have a trouble with the Gnus Customize function ("G c" keys) because I
> cannot edit any field in the buffer and I get the error
>
> Text is read-only: Attempt to change text outside editable field
Hm... works for me. `(setq debug-on-error t)', repeat the bug and
post the resulting backtrace.
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larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-12 4:49 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2006-04-12 14:17 ` Manoj Srivastava
2006-04-12 14:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Manoj Srivastava @ 2006-04-12 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 11 Apr 2006, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen spake thusly:
> leandro noferini <lnoferin@cybervalley.org> writes:
>
>> I have a trouble with the Gnus Customize function ("G c" keys)
>> because I cannot edit any field in the buffer and I get the error
>>
>> Text is read-only: Attempt to change text outside editable field
>
> Hm... works for me. `(setq debug-on-error t)', repeat the bug and
> post the resulting backtrace.
I can reproduce this -- but setting debug-on-error gave no
backtrace, just the error message, as above.
manoj
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-12 14:17 ` Manoj Srivastava
@ 2006-04-12 14:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2006-04-13 4:43 ` Manoj Srivastava
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2006-04-12 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@acm.org> writes:
> I can reproduce this -- but setting debug-on-error gave no
> backtrace, just the error message, as above.
Try `(setq debug-ignored-errors nil)' as well...
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larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-12 14:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2006-04-13 4:43 ` Manoj Srivastava
2006-04-13 5:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Manoj Srivastava @ 2006-04-13 4:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 12 Apr 2006, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen stated:
> Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@acm.org> writes:
>
>> I can reproduce this -- but setting debug-on-error gave no
>> backtrace, just the error message, as above.
>
> Try `(setq debug-ignored-errors nil)' as well...
OK. I don't understand what just happened, so I'll just tell
y'all about it, with no speculation. Sequence of events:
1) I read mail I am replying to. I hit M-u to mark ir un read. I hit
q to quit the nnml group and return to the *Group* buffer.
2) M-: (setq debug-on-error t)
M-: (setq debug-ignored-errors nil)
3) G C (enter customization buffer)
4) Hit down arrow twice, till the curso is over a squarer button
before To-List.
5) Hit "space" to toggle button.
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (text-read-only "Attempt to change text outside editable field")
signal(text-read-only ("Attempt to change text outside editable field"))
widget-before-change(136 136)
recursive-edit()
byte-code("Ã\x10 @Ã=!\0ÃÃÃ\"�Ã!\x1aA@)¢Ã=!\0ÃÃÃ\"�\v!� � !\fc\0Ãed\"\rVW\0eb�\rÂ¥y`\x1e\x1cdb�\rÂ¥\rZy\x0e\x1c`|)Ãceb�Ãà \"� �Ã!�Ã\x1e\x1d\x1e\x1eÃÃ!� +Ã" [unread-command-char debugger-args x debugger-buffer noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines -1 debug backtrace-debug 4 t backtrace-frame lambda 5 pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message "%s" buffer-string kill-emacs "" nil "" recursive-edit middlestart buffer-read-only standard-output] 4)
debug(error (void-function nil))
(nil)
6) Hit C-c C-c
Emacs crashed.
7) emacs -f gnus
8) G C
9) down arrow, hit space. A check mark appears. !!!
10) down arrow, enter button, hit space: Same error as above.
The error happens most of the time, just not every time. Which
file should I load the .el of to get a better backtrace?
manoj
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-13 4:43 ` Manoj Srivastava
@ 2006-04-13 5:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2006-04-13 13:33 ` Manoj Srivastava
2006-04-14 15:50 ` leandro noferini
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2006-04-13 5:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@acm.org> writes:
> 5) Hit "space" to toggle button.
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (text-read-only "Attempt to change text outside editable field")
Oh, now I get it too. It isn't just that SPC isn't the proper command
to hit? RET works for me on that button.
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-13 5:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2006-04-13 13:33 ` Manoj Srivastava
2006-04-13 13:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2006-04-14 15:50 ` leandro noferini
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From: Manoj Srivastava @ 2006-04-13 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 13 Apr 2006, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen verbalised:
> Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@acm.org> writes:
>
>> 5) Hit "space" to toggle button.
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (text-read-only "Attempt to change
>> text outside editable field")
>
> Oh, now I get it too. It isn't just that SPC isn't the proper
> command to hit? RET works for me on that button.
Is there some way to get a more informative diagnostic for
that user error?
Thanks,
manoj
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up to.
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-13 13:33 ` Manoj Srivastava
@ 2006-04-13 13:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2006-04-13 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@acm.org> writes:
> Is there some way to get a more informative diagnostic for
> that user error?
I don't think there is an error. `SPC' has no special binding in
custom buffers (or at least not in that custom buffer), so pressing it
just says that you're trying to edit something that can't be edited.
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-13 5:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2006-04-13 13:33 ` Manoj Srivastava
@ 2006-04-14 15:50 ` leandro noferini
2006-04-15 5:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: leandro noferini @ 2006-04-14 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>> 5) Hit "space" to toggle button.
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (text-read-only "Attempt to change text outside editable field")
>
> Oh, now I get it too. It isn't just that SPC isn't the proper command
> to hit? RET works for me on that button.
I get the following error after hit RET key
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (text-read-only "Attempt to change text outside editable field")
signal(text-read-only ("Attempt to change text outside editable field"))
widget-before-change(152 152)
self-insert-command(1)
newline(nil)
* call-interactively(newline)
Pressing C-c C-c does not close the buffer and emacs does not crash: I
need to close the buffer using C-c k.
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Ciao
leandro
Un esteso e "normale" uso della crittografia è il sistema più forte
per rivendicare il diritto alla privacy nelle comunicazioni
telematiche: come tutti i diritti e come i muscoli se non viene
esercitato costantemente si atrofizza e va perso.
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-14 15:50 ` leandro noferini
@ 2006-04-15 5:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2006-04-15 20:36 ` leandro noferini
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2006-04-15 5:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
leandro noferini <lnoferin@cybervalley.org> writes:
> I get the following error after hit RET key
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (text-read-only "Attempt to change text outside editable field")
> signal(text-read-only ("Attempt to change text outside editable field"))
> widget-before-change(152 152)
> self-insert-command(1)
> newline(nil)
> * call-interactively(newline)
This was on a button? `RET' should be:
RET (translated from <return>) runs the command widget-button-press
when point is on a button.
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-15 5:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2006-04-15 20:36 ` leandro noferini
2006-04-16 7:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: leandro noferini @ 2006-04-15 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>> I get the following error after hit RET key
>>
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (text-read-only "Attempt to change text outside editable field")
>> signal(text-read-only ("Attempt to change text outside editable field"))
>> widget-before-change(152 152)
>> self-insert-command(1)
>> newline(nil)
>> * call-interactively(newline)
>
> This was on a button? `RET' should be:
Yes, this happens (alwas to me) when I press RET with the cursor on a
button.
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Ciao
leandro
Un esteso e "normale" uso della crittografia è il sistema più forte
per rivendicare il diritto alla privacy nelle comunicazioni
telematiche: come tutti i diritti e come i muscoli se non viene
esercitato costantemente si atrofizza e va perso.
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-15 20:36 ` leandro noferini
@ 2006-04-16 7:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2006-04-19 20:36 ` leandro noferini
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2006-04-16 7:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
leandro noferini <lnoferin@cybervalley.org> writes:
> Yes, this happens (alwas to me) when I press RET with the cursor on a
> button.
That must mean that the text properties that set the local keymap on
the buttons don't work. What does `(text-properties-at (point))' say
for you over a button?
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-16 7:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2006-04-19 20:36 ` leandro noferini
2006-04-22 0:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: leandro noferini @ 2006-04-19 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>> Yes, this happens (alwas to me) when I press RET with the cursor on a
>> button.
>
> That must mean that the text properties that set the local keymap on
> the buttons don't work. What does `(text-properties-at (point))' say
> for you over a button?
This is what I get when the cursor is on the button
[ ] To List:
This address will be used when doing a `a' in the group. [More]
Text properties at 240:
rear-nonsticky (display)
intangible (image :type xbm :data #&49"ÿÿÿÿÿÿ\x01" :width 7 :height 7 :foreground "grey75" :relief 3 :ascent center)
display (image :type xbm :data #&49"ÿÿÿÿÿÿ\x01" :width 7 :height 7 :foreground "grey75" :relief 3 :ascent center)
mouse-face widget-button-pressed-face
P.S.: thanks a lot for your work.
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Ciao
leandro
Un esteso e "normale" uso della crittografia è il sistema più forte
per rivendicare il diritto alla privacy nelle comunicazioni
telematiche: come tutti i diritti e come i muscoli se non viene
esercitato costantemente si atrofizza e va perso.
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-19 20:36 ` leandro noferini
@ 2006-04-22 0:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2006-04-22 14:42 ` leandro noferini
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2006-04-22 0:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
leandro noferini <lnoferin@cybervalley.org> writes:
>> That must mean that the text properties that set the local keymap on
>> the buttons don't work. What does `(text-properties-at (point))' say
>> for you over a button?
>
> This is what I get when the cursor is on the button
I was wrong -- `RET' isn't just bound on the button in question, but
in the mode map:
`C-h k RET' in the buffer gives me:
--------
RET (translated from <return>) runs the command widget-button-press
which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `wid-edit.el'.
It is bound to RET.
(widget-button-press POS &optional EVENT)
Invoke button at POS.
[back]
--------
Perhaps this is a Custom bug that's been fixed in Emacs 22?
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-22 0:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2006-04-22 14:42 ` leandro noferini
2006-04-23 14:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: leandro noferini @ 2006-04-22 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
[...]
> [back]
> --------
>
> Perhaps this is a Custom bug that's been fixed in Emacs 22?
But I can use normally the custom buffers of emacs.
--
Ciao
leandro
Un esteso e "normale" uso della crittografia è il sistema più forte
per rivendicare il diritto alla privacy nelle comunicazioni
telematiche: come tutti i diritti e come i muscoli se non viene
esercitato costantemente si atrofizza e va perso.
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* Re: Trouble with gnus customize
2006-04-22 14:42 ` leandro noferini
@ 2006-04-23 14:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2006-04-25 20:57 ` leandro noferini
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2006-04-23 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
leandro noferini <lnoferin@cybervalley.org> writes:
>> Perhaps this is a Custom bug that's been fixed in Emacs 22?
>
> But I can use normally the custom buffers of emacs.
Hm. Anybody with an idea what's happening?
--
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2006-04-23 14:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2006-04-25 20:57 ` leandro noferini
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From: leandro noferini @ 2006-04-25 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>>> Perhaps this is a Custom bug that's been fixed in Emacs 22?
>>
>> But I can use normally the custom buffers of emacs.
>
> Hm. Anybody with an idea what's happening?
My little ideas ended a lot of time ago but I can say that using
emacs-snapshot (from debian) the problem disappeared....
--
Ciao
leandro
Un esteso e "normale" uso della crittografia è il sistema più forte
per rivendicare il diritto alla privacy nelle comunicazioni
telematiche: come tutti i diritti e come i muscoli se non viene
esercitato costantemente si atrofizza e va perso.
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