From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/50273 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Why article numbers? Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:24:21 +0100 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <841y2jzrgm.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84el60hvg9.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1045949100 8153 80.91.224.249 (22 Feb 2003 21:25:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18mh8k-000277-00 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:24:58 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18mh8S-0002Mj-00; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:24:40 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:25:39 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA00203 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:25:23 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 6089 invoked by alias); 22 Feb 2003 21:24:20 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 6084 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2003 21:24:20 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 22 Feb 2003 21:24:20 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18mhMd-0006Ow-00 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:39:19 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 24 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: quimbies.gnus.org Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1045949959 24466 80.91.231.2 (22 Feb 2003 21:39:19 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Feb 2003 21:39:19 GMT Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: The Residents's _Double Shot_: "Kiss of Flesh (instrumental)" Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEWnp6dXV1f8/Pzs7Own JyeKior////Dw8MODg4GBgaayn+AAAACfUlEQVR4nEWUMWvkMBCFJyxGbQQW18uw24YViWuDCpd2 IbZXQNc6MUF1YAu5TyH/23sjeXNmm53PM2/eaGRKad/3lMZkpSPn1mWRlh9KHE52y3ZwqnGnfmkq 2BKAtcmO+3cr5bMxZq4gp5ztOI7bnvF/OMVYwZ650pg2lLwDKBKuLSCl7T5CKXMYoJHTfABW33c7 SCfiIhrp5FFqS3nb71JNqzFa9+4Ad3tHZxyPiIege5rbUmpjYdgTSDiHELrYMMiQ2PYf6SZhKvAm fpSMPZUEQqUrg2DMa8viUMiDcpxw5XjoTDdXg6ikSiV9AP2BIdrEvTp6SITwbvSrJPhNGd7otvZr zfDmfJEEL2MapJRT7Ncq7q/Bz8gYYA8YBmNcC9Hn8xNnpCwxn1YRuVt1EvzTo5STysrnuHbal5wP wlDtnTXksNwi5P0ng1eyrRx/CviD8UEe0sHrLxrkPMKfVPMpXJZYrTCQ6mn7lso59xnee6MB8HsA x8+KFzV3BAjQDu02FHDiN6sNrxuAEWCiZhYnX2elz7oDsHkvQArX1bH7s740NI4VOCWW7q0CbEQD 51yKaFaiOw4qABBZKUeAZr6dgv4PFoLlduALIMzR1AG4UTXR1Di6/gITI01iYeAkjOgD+B4Aa9Mz mMTaHUcbQgEiNgoaROu5P7YhxAoW5xoiEm9dPdngF4oYIlyjAazP1R8ZF7wGg2jYwTqCD/DCIOFs cU6OuExXQMdx4hvJORTPvB6lJ1akcpmRA42jpfDClctSY0uUiMceFuCo3I+Ei0ax3EAGXzwm4i9J xuBF5PvBwP8CPIMSJYHBu/sFGwCtnADgHyAD5AqKhv9bwD8aglg0WyUQIQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/21.2.50 Cancel-Lock: sha1:duDrSbk1gDhu189VlueWF0qro8A= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50273 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50273 kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes: > If Gnus stored marks for message ids instead of article numbers: > > * you could move from one news server to another without losing your > marks, and without gnus-move-to-another-server, or what is it > called; Uhm... no, I don't think so. For that to work, nntp.el would have to maintain a complete mapping between article numbers and Message-IDs for all articles on both servers (ok, for all the groups you're reading), which just isn't quite practical. > * you could mark articles that were retrieved via `^'; That's already possible assuming the nntp server is sane. > * the cache would survive server-side renumbering, as would the agent. That's true. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen