From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: Re: Spam spam spam spam spam
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 18:05:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3g02ij8a0.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m21ye2ro4a.fsf@asfast.com>
Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> writes:
> Given the nature of the email conventions on the net (which were
> never originally intended to provide security against unsolicited
> mass-mailings), I believe that there is NO algorithm that exists
> that can examine headers and content and do an even barely passable
> job of filtering spam.
I think by using collaborative measures, you can probably come up with
something that will reduce the spam problem back to a bearable level.
Spamassassin/Razor/Spamcop looks like they're having a pretty good
success rate.
> One of the philosophies behind TMDA (blacklist by default, whitelist
> only as a result of some sort of authentication) seems to be a good
> basis for some usable spam protection. Yes, it requires senders to
> authenticate themselves, but as time goes on, I think that people can
> get used to that as the normal convention with email.
I use this methodology on Gmane (for allowing posting through the
news-to-mail interface), but there the potential for annoyance is so
much higher. If a spam message goes through there, it'll annoy
(potentially) thousands of people. If a spam message goes through to
me, it'll annoy one single person.
> I then set up the initial whitelist, and re-configured TMDA to start
> working the way it's supposed to. So far, I haven't heard any
> complaints from the validly-whitelistable people I had missed, and I
> actually have gotten some authentication messages back from people, who
> haven't complained in the least.
I've gone through the white-list process with a couple of people, and
I've been annoyed. Not annoyed enough to say something (because I
sympathize), but annoyed nevertheless.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-03-30 15:33 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 15:59 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-04-01 14:44 ` NAGY Andras
2002-04-05 20:01 ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-04-05 21:41 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-05 22:27 ` Derrell.Lipman
2002-04-09 17:44 ` Toby Speight
2002-04-05 21:42 ` Jon Ericson
2002-04-05 22:59 ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-04-02 16:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-04-02 19:52 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-04-02 22:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-04-05 19:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
2002-03-30 16:09 ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-30 16:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 16:56 ` Lloyd Zusman
2002-03-30 17:05 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2002-03-30 18:27 ` Lloyd Zusman
2002-04-01 14:46 ` NAGY Andras
2002-04-01 15:11 ` Lloyd Zusman
2002-03-30 17:30 ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-30 17:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 18:27 ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-31 22:00 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-03-30 16:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 16:43 ` Henrik Enberg
2002-03-30 16:53 ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-30 17:35 ` Henrik Enberg
2002-03-30 17:58 ` Robin S. Socha
2002-03-30 18:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 18:52 ` Harry Putnam
2002-03-30 19:37 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2002-03-30 23:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 0:38 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2002-04-01 14:07 ` Lloyd Zusman
2002-04-04 3:28 ` news
2002-03-31 2:07 ` Mark Milhollan
2003-01-01 21:06 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-02 19:02 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-03-30 16:34 ` Henrik Enberg
2002-03-30 16:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 16:52 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 17:45 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-03-30 18:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-30 19:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 1:39 ` Paul Jarc
2002-03-31 1:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 1:48 ` Paul Jarc
2002-03-31 1:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 15:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 16:20 ` Romain FRANCOISE
2002-03-31 18:19 ` Russ Allbery
2002-04-02 7:09 ` Michel Schinz
2002-04-03 5:10 ` Russ Allbery
2002-04-03 13:50 ` Frank Schmitt
2002-03-31 1:31 ` Daniel Pittman
2003-01-01 21:05 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 15:34 ` Fabien Penso
2002-03-31 15:50 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-03-31 16:06 ` Fabien Penso
2002-03-31 18:11 ` Russ Allbery
2002-03-31 18:31 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-04-01 17:22 ` Paul Jarc
2002-04-01 19:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-04-01 19:34 ` Paul Jarc
2002-04-01 18:22 ` Chris Shenton
2002-04-13 22:49 ` John H Palmieri
2002-04-13 23:00 ` Nevin Kapur
2002-04-14 0:04 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-04-14 0:57 ` Bill White
2002-04-21 3:38 ` Harry Putnam
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