Re: my 'dated' address (was Re: Quimby Upgrade)

[prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc)]

Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:
> * prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc)  on Fri, 27 Apr 2001
> | > Silently dropping people from lists is a serious flaw, not a feature.
> | It's not silent.
> 
> Then it has changed somewhat since it was last described to me.

Possibly.  But I rather suspect you heard an incorrect description
before.  The non-silence has been present at least as far back as
1997-06-29, when the latest stock ezmlm version seems to have been
released.

> Bad (or less than good) defaults that are easilly changed do not make them
> less bad (or good).

Well, if you don't want automatic removal of bouncing addresses, you
can avoid using the program that gives you that feature - and if you
don't want that program to be given to you by default, you can avoid
using the program that exhibits that default.  Such are the benefits
of good factoring.

> | > But then, I can (and do) say that about most of qmail's "features".
> | This isn't a qmail feature; it's an ezmlm feature.
> 
> As if there were a difference.  Sort of like how Gnus isn't GNU Emacs but
> is part of GNU Emacs, except that Lars isn't DJB.

Well, some use Emacs without Gnus, and some use qmail without ezmlm.
It doesn't work the other way, of course, but a real or perceived
weakness in Gnus or ezmlm shouldn't discourage one from using Emacs or
qmail.  There are other mail readers that can be used with Emacs;
there are other MLMs that can be used with qmail; there are reasons to
use Emacs and qmail other than reading mail and serving mailing lists.


paul