X-Draft-From header.

X-Draft-From header.

[Maciej Matysiak]

do we need this header in sent messages?
 X-Draft-From: ("nnml:ding-l-2001-01" "")
(of course value differs)
it's put in every message generated by oort gnus.

m.m.
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Re: X-Draft-From header.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Maciej Matysiak <phoner@blah.pl> writes:

> do we need this header in sent messages?
>  X-Draft-From: ("nnml:ding-l-2001-01" "")
> (of course value differs)
> it's put in every message generated by oort gnus.

It's to make it possible to mark replies as read from the drafts
group, as well as to make it possible to post to the right server from 
the drafts group.

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Re: X-Draft-From header.

[Maciej Matysiak]

On 03 Jan 2001 04:14:18 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:

> > do we need this header in sent messages?
> It's to make it possible to mark replies as read from the drafts group, as
> well as to make it possible to post to the right server from the drafts
> group.

ok, i don't need it (i don't use drafts at all). is it safe to add it to
message-ignored-mail-headers ? (or how do i get rid of it?)

m.m.
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Re: X-Draft-From header.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Maciej Matysiak <phoner@blah.pl> writes:

> ok, i don't need it (i don't use drafts at all).

You do use drafts even though you don't know it.  :-)

> is it safe to add it to message-ignored-mail-headers ? (or how do i
> get rid of it?)

It's not sent out, or anything.  It's stripped automatically.

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Re: X-Draft-From header.

[Maciej Matysiak]

On 03 Jan 2001 05:47:46 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:

> > ok, i don't need it (i don't use drafts at all).
> You do use drafts even though you don't know it.  :-)

damn ;) ok, i don't know the guts of gnus. at all.

> > is it safe to add it to message-ignored-mail-headers ? (or how do i
> > get rid of it?)
> It's not sent out, or anything.  It's stripped automatically.

when i add x-d-f header to m-i-m-h, yes. but in cvs updated on the 2nd jan
20:40, this header is not there, so it's sent. hence the question. look at:
 Message-ID: <vuo7l4dhh22.fsf@csa.bu.edu> and
 Message-ID: <874rzij5zv.fsf@lynx.ionific.com> as examples.
or am i misunderstanding something?

m.m.
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Re: X-Draft-From header.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Maciej Matysiak <phoner@blah.pl> writes:

> when i add x-d-f header to m-i-m-h, yes. but in cvs updated on the 2nd jan
> 20:40, this header is not there, so it's sent. hence the question. look at:
>  Message-ID: <vuo7l4dhh22.fsf@csa.bu.edu> and
>  Message-ID: <874rzij5zv.fsf@lynx.ionific.com> as examples.
> or am i misunderstanding something?

Oops.  I forgot to add it to the mail stuff.  Fix in cvs in a jiffy.

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Re: X-Draft-From header

[Stein A. Strømme]

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

| stromme@mi.uib.no (Stein A. Strømme) writes:
| 
| > I see.  Are there reasons for its existence (and visibility) beyond
| > that?  
| 
| It makes it possible to have a drafts system that works properly.

Sounds like a good enough reason (although this humble user has never
suffered from not having a properly working drafts system before..:-)
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Re: X-Draft-From header

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

stromme@mi.uib.no (Stein A. Strømme) writes:

> I see.  Are there reasons for its existence (and visibility) beyond
> that?  

It makes it possible to have a drafts system that works properly.

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Re: X-Draft-From header

[Stein A. Strømme]

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

| It has to be in the buffer to be auto-saved...

I see.  Are there reasons for its existence (and visibility) beyond
that?  
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Re: X-Draft-From header

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Karl Kleinpaste <karl@charcoal.com> writes:

> Could the text be rendered invisible during composition?

Invisible (and intangible) text has its difficulties.  I think most of
the implementation bugs have been fixed in both Emacs and XEmacs now,
but people have a tendency to kill'n'yank text from one buffer to
another, and then they're kinda surprised that what they got wasn't
what they thought they'd get.  I think that according to the principle
of least astonishment, no invisible text should be in text-mode-like
buffers.

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Re: X-Draft-From header

[Karl Kleinpaste]

Could the text be rendered invisible during composition?

Re: X-Draft-From header

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

stromme@mi.uib.no (Stein A. Strømme) writes:

> I just installed Oort (cvs of today) and wonder about the X-Draft-From
> header, which as the first and longest header quite dominates my
> message buffer visually.  Here it is:
> 
>     X-Draft-From: ("nntp+quimby.gnus.org:gnus.ding" "")
> 
> Do I need to see this header while composing a message?

It has to be in the buffer to be auto-saved...

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X-Draft-From header

[Stein A. Strømme]

I just installed Oort (cvs of today) and wonder about the X-Draft-From
header, which as the first and longest header quite dominates my
message buffer visually.  Here it is:

    X-Draft-From: ("nntp+quimby.gnus.org:gnus.ding" "")

Do I need to see this header while composing a message?
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