From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/27914 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: MHonarc+Wilma+gnus (nntp, nnml) Date: 07 Dec 1999 13:12:35 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035164854 27063 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:47:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08381 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:14:01 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAB20984; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 15:13:46 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 07 Dec 1999 15:13:29 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25537 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 15:13:19 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mail.networkone.net (qmailr@mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA08361 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 16:12:47 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (qmail 25295 invoked from network); 7 Dec 1999 21:12:47 -0000 Original-Received: from pm3-4-227.la.networkone.net (HELO satellite.local.lan) (reader@209.144.126.227) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 7 Dec 1999 21:12:47 -0000 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by satellite.local.lan (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA01485; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:12:35 -0800 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 56 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070099 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.99) Emacs/20.4 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:27914 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:27914 I recently got interested in the Mhonarc html rendering and search tools coupled with some perl scripts called "wilma" and the Glimpse search engine tools. The ding archives are run with this software and are pretty impressive. I know even less perl than lisp (way little) so didn't want to start hacking the scripts up to bad. As they are, they are designed for majordomo type output. IE spool files with mnth and year numbering. So I've just made the source material resemble that format and have been able to get it working nicely. (Thanks to Jason R Mastaler and Jason L. Tibbetts). To aim those tools at gnus output, inparticular nnml, or even better, the nntp format that agent uses, requires that the files be reformatted with the famous "From " line and be concatenated into a spool. Gnus is probably the slowest and worst way to attain lots of Unix-format news messages. ( That save feature has always been a pain). I]m using Awk/procmail (probably many other ways too) for the conversion. They handle it with problem but just more work and script writing. I wondered if any readers here have hacked wilmas' pearl to handle single message type output like nnml nnmh nntp. MHonarc already does handle MH format but not the "wilma" wrapper scripts. It would be very nifty to have a setup where gnus feeds the messages to wilma/MHonarc/glimpse. It is a very powerfull search interface. So far I'm getting good mileage by reformatting gnus messages on the fly and leaving them untouched in ~/News/agent and ~/Mail. But it take lots of coniving and fiddling. Procmail gets heavy use making the spools. It would be way more efficient to have wilma use the gnus format. Anyone interested in the software, here is basic info sent out by the folks that run the gnus archive: Software Used: 1. Perl 5 (v5.004_04) 2. CGI.pm (part of the 5.004 distribution) 3. MHonArc (v2.2.0) - e-mail-to-HTML conversion 4. Glimpse (v3.6) - For the search interface 5. Wilma (v1.4) - The glue holding everything together References: 1,2. http://www.perl.com/pub/language/info/software.html 3. http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html 4. http://glimpse.cs.arizona.edu/ 5. http://www.hpc.uh.edu/majordomo/#wilma