!! 0.95: very strange behavior.

!! 0.95: very strange behavior.

[Vladimir Volovich]

Hi,

i use nnmbox backend to receive my mail. today i received some mails
into my mail spool file. i've run `mail' to read mails (because my
mbox is big, and i wanted to read mail quickly). Emacs and gnus were
running at that time. i exited `mail' with `x' (leaving the spool file
as is). then, after some time, i've ran `mail' again, and --- surprize
--- it showed that my spool file is empty! i did not use gnus between
running `mail'. i then pressed `g' in gnus, having last hope that my
mail was not lost, but gnus did not show any new mail!

before giving up, i've scanned recursively files in my homedir for the
subject of one of mails (which i could still see in the xterm window
after running `mail'). and... i found new mails in the ~/Mail/mail/
directory and it's subdirectories (e.g. my private mail was in
~/Mail/mail/misc/). So, gnus somehow without my ask, silently received
my mail into nnml backend. I'm not even `subscribed' to those nnml
groups (i read nnmbox ones, as i said), so this is very confusing.

The same thing with mail `disappearing' happened some days ago, and i
found those mails in ~/Mail/mail/, too.

Does anyone have an idea of what's going on? Why does gnus scan my
spool file without a `g' command (gnus-group-get-new-news), and why
does it ignore splitting rules that say to use nnmbox backend?

	Best regards, -- Vladimir.
-- 
Girls are better looking in snowstorms.
		-- Archie Goodwin

Re: !! 0.95: very strange behavior.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Vladimir Volovich <vvv@vvv.vsu.ru> writes:

> Does anyone have an idea of what's going on? Why does gnus scan my
> spool file without a `g' command (gnus-group-get-new-news), and why
> does it ignore splitting rules that say to use nnmbox backend?

Gnus won't scan in mail unless you `g' or `M-g' or something.  And the 
splitting rules do not say which backend mail goes to; the first mail
backend that requests the mail gets it.

Is it possible that you `M-g'-d an nnml group?  That would explain
what you're seeing.

You should probably set `nnml-get-new-mail' to nil.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: !! 0.95: very strange behavior.

[Vladimir Volovich]

"LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes:

 >> Does anyone have an idea of what's going on? Why does gnus scan my
 >> spool file without a `g' command (gnus-group-get-new-news), and
 >> why does it ignore splitting rules that say to use nnmbox backend?

 LMI> Gnus won't scan in mail unless you `g' or `M-g' or something.
 LMI> And the splitting rules do not say which backend mail goes to;
 LMI> the first mail backend that requests the mail gets it.

 LMI> Is it possible that you `M-g'-d an nnml group?  That would
 LMI> explain what you're seeing.

Yup. Seems to be the case. Not long ago i saw this behavior after
pressing M-g on nnml:archive. i sent some mail which had Gcc:
nnml:archive, and i pressed M-g on nnml:archive to see if the copy got
there, because i did not want to receive mail into nnmbox yet. this
resulted in getting all new mail into nnml backend (and new created
nnml groups did not show in the group buffer unless i subscribed to
htem manually by name! which seems to be a bug).

 LMI> You should probably set `nnml-get-new-mail' to nil.

i'll try. will the Gcc: nnml:archive still work? (and pressing M-g on
nnml:archive?)

	Best regards, -- Vladimir.

Re: !! 0.95: very strange behavior.

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Vladimir Volovich <vvv@vvv.vsu.ru> writes:

>  LMI> You should probably set `nnml-get-new-mail' to nil.
> 
> i'll try. will the Gcc: nnml:archive still work? (and pressing M-g on
> nnml:archive?)

Yup, and yup.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen