From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/22125 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: bad (i.e. serious) mail problems Date: 29 Mar 1999 20:04:08 -0500 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035160102 26520 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:28:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17359 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:06:09 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAB04128; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:05:27 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:05:27 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA00085 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:05:18 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from peorth.gweep.net (ratinox@adhara.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.116.158]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA17322 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:05:02 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from ratinox@localhost) by peorth.gweep.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) id UAA01452; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:04:08 -0500 Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: Dmitry Yaitskov's message of "28 Mar 1999 13:16:09 -0500" Original-Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.07008 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.80) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22125 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22125 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've gone back to determine where the problem might be. It is not Gnus, and it is not pop3. * Dmitry Yaitskov on Sun, 28 Mar 1999 | [...] If I understand that situation correctly (please tell me that I'm | wrong) this is kind of by design. Or am I missing something here? Your MTA is. Gnus uses Content-Length headers, when they exist, to determine where to split messages. When they do not exist, it uses SMTP envelopes (what you mistakenly call 'headers') just like Berkeley mail and every POP server known to me to delimit messages. If your MTA does not generate a Content-Length header, it is required to escape lines that look like envelopes. All in all, Gnus has been very good at Doing the Right Thing with properly formed messages. Your MTA is not generating Content-Length headers, nor is it escaping lines that look like envelopes. In short, it is broken -- at least that is my supposition. I do not want to add your patch to pop3.el. Message transports are not allowed to modify message bodies in any way. Less (or perhaps more, depending on one's perspective) importantly, your patch is a workaround for what appears to be a really badly broken MTA, one that I have no means (or intention, sorry) of testing against. I cannot support code that I cannot (or for some reason will not) test against. Sorry. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v0.9.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE3ACMIgl+vIlSVSNkRAjTWAKDcWyd8xrrJKbutOARwwYvyspYFbwCgwAHC n8rJL/i8RprKAnxr/j4dQ0U= =WYu5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rat \ Warning: pregnant women, the elderly, and Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ children under 10 should avoid prolonged PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ exposure to Happy Fun Ball.