From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78982 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nntp-record-commands is named badly; nnbackend-debug is needed Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 20:53:18 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <87oc30cn8d.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hb8r3epz.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ipsrp5ft.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1306868421 25428 80.91.229.12 (31 May 2011 19:00:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:00:21 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M27282@lists.math.uh.edu Tue May 31 21:00:17 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRUAo-0006RN-GF for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 21:00:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QRUAk-0006mD-7T; Tue, 31 May 2011 14:00:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QRUAj-0006m2-4N for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 31 May 2011 14:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QRUAh-0001Uo-UN for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 31 May 2011 14:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QRUAg-0002uT-05 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 21:00:06 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QRUAf-0006NP-C0 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 21:00:05 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 21:00:05 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 21:00:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAADFBMVEUwIRhTQCOThG1rVi/b 1rLtAAACM0lEQVQokR3QT0gUURwH8O/mytLi6gqaHfTopZOLLp3Ct+h2kMBd7DEgDntOkqKcHljj 69S5Tp0Uggj9Dex6kcgUDVY8pugwZY1Lh6hW/LPhMKQ8XlPHz+/7+x1+X3yTJ9qTllZvf63jofot PHHDM+eUj93SeOiFtjvhBxyNsCZcabndpsohUHLMKlk6NToQg/LNB9y01KCWIQLXEikecLv2WEHk RX8bL/IJd3IVfVUebHYUip0H5GCbtwfbKl24vk8EhkJn0UjHZN0hAKeINSPhH/44Bi69jgZoc0+U RrJOCxEGa0daY5KIWKxNerYu4sY7WmFNpu/tLDYQBbR0xZ+wEqT/45WuydMZWsc/vbz4KINzqkAT VUKpJVHZgUNrSgg1XqZ9wuJMZaDYpfbLtE4gx5kuavOcaIVQJ3qzPGv/iRTBuUbHOrw4dyLMHtUr UzrU5cPoOaXrbsBrWh9HiYhaMTxPyEAQQiVdw3etqCANV/i8pBrK8vgu7hsBD5U+y7rcgq0f+YH2 g3aLZyAODr6q6FDqIAuxJbmxZ2eD0pkR1WtyY7pn2CqFw/ieN/L5J3IjnvKGEQwl4rfMOYbUEMNm vj+eq1Yz6VwO+PBF7DGXxXqsxF3s9BQLGI22bt9hOOpiLWwEiB+yy+jtaKRYK/CT4RMy8XvN1VYw htkFDDRlwJJAi/mCkG7qw0YSLE80gm4gtjS/9bn87P04dPa02S7PJydXe2+ixGvLa/T86dTY1Y2/ RZU1RyHJ7noAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Tape's _Revelationes_: "Gone Gone" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Lhnf3zPNQkId17a2KcCgnmmE03c= X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78982 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > I am trying to avoid the annoyance of having a *-debug variable for each > backend. My debug macro IMHO is an improvement over the current > approach of "do whatever debugging, however you want" and is analogous > to how `gnus-message' improves messaging for Gnus. There's also some value to keeping things simple. The backend debugging stuff isn't as pervasive as the `gnus-message' stuff, I think. And the `gnus-message' thing is meant to be tweaked by the user, while the debug thing isn't... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/