From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/74324 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus always fetching all messages from nntp server Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:15:45 +0100 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <87bp5kl66u.fsf@seashell.home> <87mxp39lnf.fsf@seashell.home> <87r5efm0je.fsf@seashell.home> <878w0lami7.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290633523 31027 80.91.229.12 (24 Nov 2010 21:18:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:18:43 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M22688@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Nov 24 22:18:39 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PLMjY-0005wl-Ol for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:18:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PLMjQ-0002t8-1a; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:18:24 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PLMjO-0002sx-Ps for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:18:22 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PLMjK-0006K5-Ao for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:18:22 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1PLMjJ-0003Ky-00 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:18:17 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PLMjH-0005kd-JA for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:18:15 +0100 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no ([84.215.34.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:18:15 +0100 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:18:15 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 14 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWgnYn+/ev+//FWU0j1 8d0DAQD+//Lf2cLKxa0JBgP+//MYFRGGk+Z9AAACPklEQVQ4jV2SMYvjMBCFB1ys4CoJ/wGLw0Uq g6olVcDg/QMuwnUqXKTa5QJ26SMHdr+kMO5cpHBrtgj6c/dGsjfhBoKd+fTeG01C8zzftJZ1Xfdc 7YveoWU1zVwMmsYToU9oTLMHJ5t0kASitT8bFDbu0A1uUqffwCYARF1P1PcqfSgqBi31bZSJXu8q ZFQAt0oziACIRKdSbWfLYLYqieumbQEy0UmtdWW3jNoPFRQK6VO4x22dthUtFFLijtaD6eeqEBj3 Qyn7UDyBP8jewJQ0jQfYSP+R4iKTWgG6Na4oBIDme8iwkqTARjATowNb2QAm/bYB6mV6m3C11Spu 1j51Sp9uDysPIgPwV2qrd1u4BEAzyojOAFW6WmG7TTAikUtlU/zWHmC7b74dkThIhS0CnHioJA8K k73kkkOSFcgNGAaQAOx8BEC2goOUiZKSqrmaPDDGRMYIBlxQnOBU8C18dfkKeDREZOzDJc6BEI8W F+8AQSK6szcjCUFc/OZtMHGLqH2MB3l9MRS8nFu6c44iQMxkAAzI3jmX1XUAcV5EzgQvx5XhP3Mm lr3vF7eYLDIBeMKgQCS8g9Pek75jcDH8HckQ+hScEgDv6EMDhAZ/PKO6wXP5wQLz6ky0Z8OFQbRg e86YYO/9vOLigsHnMI4j3u4h3pGPcm5cANzo3H3gGgMY8fXT82GrkUF4uw/j8FT0fQgHjs8gPK7H siyPw3+gDPXLmPvxGZQP8IXHtVzBdQPl+LW9QUiP/nMNwz8HhL3SUsknrAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Xiu Xiu's _Dear God, I Hate Myself_: "Cumberland Gap" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9w3aD85WGwSHzqvoX3mJaeDxfmA= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:74324 Archived-At: Russ Allbery writes: > Well, you can get all parents by retrieving overview information by > message ID (OVER ), and if the server supports XPAT on References, > you can get the rest of the thread with XPAT searches. I'm not sure if it > would end up being more efficient than what Gnus is doing now, due to the > round trips required, but it would send less data over the network. I seem to remember fiddling with this back in the '90s (or something), and XPAT was very slow on the server I tested with, so I just gave up... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen