From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45520 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stainless Steel Rat Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: yEnc support in Gnus? Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 20:44:18 -0400 Organization: The Happy Fun Ball Brigade Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <20020627184848.A14291@krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de> <02Jul2.112919edt.119318@gateway.intersystems.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1025743597 14304 127.0.0.1 (4 Jul 2002 00:46:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 00:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17PulY-0003ib-00 for ; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 02:46:36 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17Pujd-0005Th-00; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 19:44:37 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 03 Jul 2002 19:44:58 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA09956 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 19:44:46 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 9553 invoked by alias); 4 Jul 2002 00:44:20 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 9548 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2002 00:44:20 -0000 Original-Received: from h0060978d8c91.ne.client2.attbi.com (HELO peorth.gweep.net) (dhquxn@24.218.202.161) by gnus.org with SMTP; 4 Jul 2002 00:44:20 -0000 Original-Received: (from ratinox@localhost) by peorth.gweep.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g640iI203008; Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:44:18 -0400 Original-To: "(ding)" X-Attribution: Rat In-Reply-To: (Matthias Andree's message of "Thu, 04 Jul 2002 01:14:26 +0200") Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45520 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45520 * Matthias Andree on Wed, 03 Jul 2002 | "Broadcast" is not to be seen in the strict and network-layer oriented | sense. NNTP is being (ab)used for binary distribution, it carries data | regardless of whether this data has been requested or not. Not true. Every news server requests the contents of a list of newsgroups from its upstream server(s). For example, back when I was a news admin, my site wanted all binaries groups except the pictures groups. We wanted to avoid possible copyright problems with the picture groups. My newsfeeds file had "alt.*" and "!alt.binaries.pictures.*", requests to the upstream servers to send us everything in alt, including the binaries groups, but excluding the pictures groups. By default, a feed in a newsfeeds file requests no news at all. The news server admin must fill in a list of groups that his server will carry, even if that list is simply "*". Additionally, the news server admin must manually perform newgroup commands, or configure his server to automaticaly perform them or ignore them entirely. You may want to argue implicit vs. explicit, but there is no such thing as unrequested news. -- Rat \ If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ away immediately. Seek shelter and cover PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ head. That and five bucks will get you a small coffee at Starbucks.