From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/31190 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pavel.Janik@linux.cz (Pavel =?iso-8859-2?q?Jan=EDk?= ml.) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: posting-styles and Return-Path:? 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X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/21.0.90 Original-Lines: 99 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:31190 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:31190 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:01:38 +0200 Hi, > I'm not sure about Return-Path, but Gnus generates a Sender header > when you customize the From address. >=20 > Does this help? > (add-to-list 'message-syntax-checks '(message-id . disabled)) no, sorry. From: Karl Kleinpaste Date: 23 May 2000 11:12:02 -0400 > This is due to sendmail, not Gnus. >=20 > Return-Path is an MTA=B9-generated header; it is added at the final > delivery stage to a local mailbox. Sendmail intuits to the best Of course, but I think that Gnus is the BAD here (or maybe, me). When I send the mail it has only the information about my private domain, no way to store @linux.cz address there. But the mail has the info about linux.cz in it even when sendmail does not know about my @linux.cz address. I think that it is definitely connected with Gnus and I will solve it tonight. ... time passes (hey, I spent four hours on it!) ... The problem seems to be solved now. Posting-styles are not compatible with gnus-agent... You can try it on your own. Just send to yourself the message with subject "Plugged" when plugged and with "Unplugged" when Unplugged and then, become Plugged and send the message. Ok. You have two messages in your mailbox. Just diff them: --- Plugged Tue May 23 22:21:15 2000 +++ Unplugged Tue May 23 22:21:12 2000 "From " and Return-Path are different, Plugged is correct (ie. as expected): @@ -1,14 +1,14 @@ -From Pavel@mydomain.cz Tue May 23 22:20:18 2000 -Return-Path: +From Pavel.Janik@linux.cz Tue May 23 22:20:34 2000 +Return-Path: The From: header is the same and the correct one specified in my posting-styles. Second diff is the date (obviously :-) Received: (from pavel@localhost) - by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA15178; - Tue, 23 May 2000 22:20:16 +0200 -Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:20:16 +0200 -Message-Id: <200005232020.WAA15178@SnowWhite.inet.cz> -X-Authentication-Warning: SnowWhite.inet.cz: pavel set sender to Pavel@myd= omain.cz using -f + by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA15182; + Tue, 23 May 2000 22:20:33 +0200 +Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:20:33 +0200 +X-Authentication-Warning: SnowWhite.inet.cz: pavel set sender to Pavel.Jan= ik@linux.cz using -f +Message-ID: And then: subject: -Subject: Test when Plugged +Subject: Test when Unplugged So when I'm plugged, the mail is send as specified in my posting-styles. When I'm unplugged, the mail is stored in the agent queue with the correct From: header, but when it is sent it is sent as from my @linux.cz address because it is the default (".*") match in the posting-styles. I think that I understood it correctly. So I think that we should notice Agent about the thing that user has specified another address to send from and the agent should use this address as in Plugged. Well, this is maybe the (mis)feature of Agent, and if it is, it should be mentioned in the docs. The same also applies for the drafts group which is even worse I think. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nice 4 hours, really :-) -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@linux.cz --=-=-=--