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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: Re: Automatic part insertion: åäö and 吃哪塞 on the same line
Date: 02 Dec 1998 20:12:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3hfvejr2e.fsf@sparky.gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Vladimir Volovich's message of "02 Dec 1998 15:39:47 +0300"

(Sorry about the previous, empty message.)

Vladimir Volovich <vvv@vvv.vsu.ru> writes:

> Well, very nice. :-) I take my words back about automatical parts
> insertions, _provided_that_ there is an RFC which specifies that some
> part should be displayed as a continuation of the line of previous
> part (as gnus did when displaying your message).

Quoth RFC2046:

   NOTE:  The CRLF preceding the boundary delimiter line is conceptually
   attached to the boundary so that it is possible to have a part that
   does not end with a CRLF (line  break).  Body parts that must be
   considered to end with line breaks, therefore, must have two CRLFs
   preceding the boundary delimiter line, the first of which is part of
   the preceding body part, and the second of which is part of the
   encapsulation boundary.

> Also, gnus should prefer to not create `automagical' mime parts if
> it _can_ find a single charset for the whole part. For example, a
> message with mixed russian+japanese seems to fit into japanese mime
> encoding. So, even if i'm sending this from a cyrillic environment
> in Emacs, gnus should prefer to encode the part with the mixed text
> using single charset, if available. Thus, when Emacs will support
> unicode, gnus will send messages with mixed chinese+scandinavian
> text without breaking into parts.

I don't really know about this one.  If I'm composing a message using
Scandianvian and Sami characters (which would be iso-8859-1 and
iso-8859-9 if I'm responsing to someone using iso-8859-9,) I want to
respons using iso-8859-9 and iso-8859-1, not Unicode, no matter
whether Emacs supports it or not.  What's important is what the
recipient supports, and one can't assume that the recipient supports
these megacharsets.

MIME is widely implemented, if (ahum) slightly shakily here and
there.  Unicode is not.  So it's better to Mimetilate a message than
to Unicodelate the messege.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen


  parent reply	other threads:[~1998-12-02 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <6f67buzzff.fsf@dna.lth.se>
1998-12-02  9:41 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-02 10:00   ` Russ Allbery
1998-12-02 12:49     ` Kurt Swanson
1998-12-02 17:19     ` Automatic part insertion: åäö and ÔÄû " François Pinard
1998-12-02 17:30       ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-12-02 17:55         ` Richard Coleman
1998-12-03  8:53           ` Automatic part insertion: åao and ÔAû " Jari Aalto+list.ding
1998-12-02 18:02     ` Automatic part insertion: åäö and 吃哪塞 " Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-02 19:32     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-02 10:27   ` Matt Armstrong
1998-12-02 18:03     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-02 19:12     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-02 20:39       ` Simon Josefsson
     [not found]         ` <6fyaopd2dz.fsf@dna.lth.se>
1998-12-03 18:39           ` Simon Josefsson
1998-12-02 16:59   ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-12-02 22:19   ` Karl Kleinpaste
1998-12-02 22:40     ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-12-02 23:07     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-02-13  2:17       ` Neil Crellin
1999-02-13  6:00         ` Dmitry Yaitskov
1999-02-13 12:59           ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-02-19 13:58         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-02-19 17:04           ` Neil Crellin
1998-12-03  0:10     ` Kai.Grossjohann
1998-12-03  6:38       ` Graham Murray
1998-12-03 10:46         ` Kai.Grossjohann
1998-12-03 11:50         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-02 12:39 ` Vladimir Volovich
1998-12-02 17:38   ` Shenghuo ZHU
1998-12-02 18:34     ` Vladimir Volovich
1998-12-02 18:59       ` Shenghuo ZHU
1998-12-02 19:43         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-02 23:34           ` Info on Internationalization Richard Coleman
1998-12-03  0:05             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-03  0:17               ` Shenghuo ZHU
1998-12-03 11:39                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-03 16:49                   ` Shenghuo ZHU
1998-12-03  0:27               ` Richard Coleman
1998-12-06 14:11               ` François Pinard
1998-12-03  0:06             ` Shenghuo ZHU
1998-12-03  0:12               ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-12-03 11:38               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-03 13:18                 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-12-03 16:39                   ` Shenghuo ZHU
1998-12-03 16:38                 ` Shenghuo ZHU
1998-12-04  1:15                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-04  7:10                     ` Shenghuo ZHU
1998-12-02 21:19         ` Automatic part insertion: åäö and 吃哪塞 on the same line Vladimir Volovich
1998-12-02 21:37           ` Shenghuo ZHU
1998-12-02 22:18             ` Vladimir Volovich
1998-12-02 23:29               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-02 17:50   ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-12-02 18:19   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-02 19:12   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen [this message]
1998-12-02 19:41     ` Vladimir Volovich
1998-12-02 21:34       ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-12-02 22:29       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-12-04  8:31         ` Vladimir Volovich
1998-12-02 21:33     ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-12-02 16:26 ` Michael Harnois
1998-12-02 17:02   ` Michael Harnois
1998-11-14 15:30 Scriptin' MIME Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-14 18:07 ` Bruce Stephens
1998-11-14 18:27   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-14 18:38     ` Bruce Stephens
1998-11-14 20:48     ` Richard Coleman
1998-11-14 19:55   ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-11-14 20:45     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-11-14 20:45       ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-11-14 18:29 ` Andi Kleen

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