From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/74462 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: bug#7487: 24.0.50; Gnus nnimap broken Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:56:21 +0100 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290913045 28870 80.91.229.12 (28 Nov 2010 02:57:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 02:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M22822@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Nov 28 03:57:21 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PMXS3-0000qy-Jd for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:57:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PMXRr-0008Pn-78; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:57:07 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PMXRp-0008Pe-Ru for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:57:05 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMXRl-0006LD-PK for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:57:05 -0600 Original-Received: from smtp.getmail.no ([84.208.15.66]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1PMXRl-00037a-00 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:57:01 +0100 Original-Received: from get-mta-scan01.get.basefarm.net ([10.5.16.4]) by get-mta-out02.get.basefarm.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-0.04 64bit (built Jun 20 2008)) with ESMTP id <0LCK00H4FQUZP360@get-mta-out02.get.basefarm.net> for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:56:59 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from get-mta-scan01.get.basefarm.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 8ECFB179930A_CF1C4FBB for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 02:56:59 +0000 (GMT) Original-Received: from smtp.getmail.no (unknown [10.5.16.4]) by get-mta-scan01.get.basefarm.net (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTP id 25F36179655E_CF1C4FBF for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 02:56:59 +0000 (GMT) Original-Received: from quimbies.gnus.org ([84.215.34.171]) by get-mta-in01.get.basefarm.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-0.04 64bit (built Jun 20 2008)) with ESMTP id <0LCK00EEQQUZHC00@get-mta-in01.get.basefarm.net> for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:56:59 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from larsi by quimbies.gnus.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMXRi-0006QS-TK for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:56:58 +0100 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug In-reply-to: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEXr4d4hHR737Onz6OXD ubzc0tSTiYm7sLPx5ePMwsW6d0oIAAACKklEQVQ4jXXSMYvbMBQHcAWaq8dqOGUNMrQZg0VL1gOT kC2FCyFbzDVyujXgs/AmLm3ReuD00Le9957kOASqQIb38/+9J2P2vGLXZ7herfFs2S/GbiQc9hwL SS9kbNcVEvc/sIyBDVfDG8AlLFvFQAfwqIYy+3h/Gb6jwZYlxb1lw+ITVf2ZABZKEvfAE3bHd1T3 /hxaWevsAIqvfB/BA1joA4kBb/ScYBsSiXVwB+cGe85Hr/tQxwQUmTud3PQv5/ynj522CIk7qZmT BcCo9eGsKeGUchmBADj7OOM0UwgTjpA3IQHgoBH85BcEbq5AOQAlPxOU1dLHrWAjeD7rwORB2AEm zzKZpVfQUgLaKCllhNEFDnAHJYG+RaiqHLshnDICrWtdXAEGEAYd5HAIFAQyOQEoRCEW1VuAJyjK DOC7KDiAqdoIUFcI8DgM1ya/gEoxNC64RoBan0glgdCYaLZxq0ymeMHxke4hzLJpO8BOchoA3olZ xnUD2IcAusQrLgNIhLoHQ5AFYPMAAhYOIFPsJD/UUMO1dBlB0YjJnYaaxj8YH1pRp8mmFmVlNK9r HYECcvxYC5MvTGF6SAkWAFVuitLcJPJawAeSH3vIELJxOxeV9+1Rm274C8HU/wPYAsBWed/q5ev6 jRu/bo/iAtRK/mEbXi47iG+XYPrIdQMAL4s+E/YkaYadbrhofFuLDg74HaaZZW9c/PALfTUcpqfy 9x7ebrmsL/AOK90/qfg6iZ8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: David Sylvian's _Sleepwalkers_: "Exit-Delete" Cancel-Lock: sha1:brt1y99ph4uJfhsQG5rjDcwK1Cc= Posted-To: gnu.emacs.bug X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:74462 Archived-At: The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gnu.emacs.bug as well. Jason Rumney writes: > Upon starting Gnus, some of my groups are showing unread articles in the > summary buffer, including groups which I only manually move articles > into, and which I have not touched for months. [...] > It seems gnus-agent (which I never explicitly enabled, but have had > problems with in past upgrades after it was enabled by default) is out > of sync with the server, and deleting the ~/News/agent directory fixed > the problem. Gnus has stopped enabling the Agent by default now, but older installations can still get in the way. I've Cc'd this to the Gnus mailing list -- do any of you know why the Agent got so wildly out of what with nnimap in the past? > This is a terrible user experience. Trying SSL first is a good feature, > but if it fails, Gnus should fall back to using plain imap as the user > has configured. It isn't even obvious to me what variable I have to set > to access plain imap anymore. We've discussed the connection methodology on the list in the past, but it seems I punted on actually implementing this. I've now changed the (default) to try imaps first, and if it fails, imap. If you wish to force a specific protocol, then `nnimap-stream' is the backend slot to customize. > Following this, I configured Gnus to use imaps (which I have configured on a > non-standard port to get through certain firewalls but never bothered to > use before on localhost), and now run into a third problem. I don't follow you here. How did you configure Gnus to use imaps? And since that's the default, isn't that what failed? > Upon logging in, I am prompted to add my login credentials to > ~/.authinfo.gpg. This brings up a confusing buffer asking me to mark > a public key, which I have discovered by trial and error only works if > I select no public keys so it falls back on symetric encryption. Yes, that interface is so confusing it's ridiculous. Ted is rewriting the way Emacs asks for and stores user credentials. It'll support using the Secrets API in addition to the standard Emacs .gpg file handling, but the .gpg interface is so wildly user hostile that I'm tempted to go back to just storing this data in the plain-text ~/.authinfo file until all this has been worked out. > After entering an encryption password twice, I was able to read my > mail at last. Yay! :-) > But my problems aren't over yet. When I quit Gnus and start it again, > my encryption password for authinfo.gpg doesn't appear to work. > Actually, it is working, because if I enter a different password, it > fails immediately, whereas if I enter the correct password it loops > forever asking for my password (maybe not forever, but my patience for > finding out is limited). Weird. Could you (setq debug-on-quit t) and then `C-g' when it starts asking you again and again? Post the backtrace here. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen