From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/72398 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnimap ports and protocols Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:19:00 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285946381 3567 80.91.229.12 (1 Oct 2010 15:19:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 15:19:41 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M20770@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Oct 01 17:19:37 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1hOX-00060r-Br for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:19:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P1hOM-0005Aj-Bo; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 10:19:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P1hOK-0005AS-IJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 10:19:20 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P1hOF-00060I-I0 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 10:19:20 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1P1hOE-0004HC-00 for ; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:19:14 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1hOB-0005wS-2q for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:19:11 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no ([84.215.34.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:19:11 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:19:11 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEUAAAAoKSdNTj0NDxXA zIwCAgP2+9OChGM/bRN2AAACLklEQVQ4jVWUQY/iMAyFu0K9b1JVnJsW5TohQpx3J2qvQBXtfVWV MyXa/P19tkuZsVAR/ni2k7y0KIqd+bgUiOh9jHhwRCR2tqavcvRfgv+qlcdzdEoppNQb3GqUGJ02 FI1WdqkEjPWYcwrzPA0h/OpUyq2AGK85h36e5xzs8g24HAQMdrEqb8ArFAfLC3o0mEF6lDSP1zZn gIYnW4GnH4oAhKpy3j/ju5KlUnnJqnFKPyMrHCXRep5E04Xn7SeBYxpk2gl5lN3ALQ2GF3gn0Pi0 guJqjNMWmjsN1qCf9ChO2FdtU0898gMD609pji1JAdHfsRDa4vMnj1vG8kpDhTDRuIj9I8YvYIJo SGivG3USUDCAJGQeWFWrotjJ+gbkZbNe4AeDechMbG4ZFKM2opgSlrjoEB7XmleOs+AeWHv63RG4 1WyGZgNT/tvrlERBWyKl8OnmWaXwGLnHZW1OG/xPQNxALwp6bqD8Bqag0iDgsoF+VQCUBYeAIKDp 8uPyAilsIAAsL3BlIILQbqAcjwwGrsdAxj2SP5HMcijtPjdvQBK7ARNPDKwlMFk5rMN+eQGDc0BG sSWGw3lRDOLRkKG7oDQf7uFsHPcYXWONfv7JZ1SHgepb64vIbncwQDXq4+LkHlQnAbixuAhtRG1L djdKzBDlgpiPm9ErqE4CcNXopzHrVYdCvOvppWBeoUggvsKbhSyrlUTlBRTyznFrGkZEPuLASUJv Hs469ifiPwkQBIc6qUB7AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Telefon Tel Aviv's _Immolate Yourself_: "Immolate Yourself" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0Ky1GhjuGMApYmdci3PAYiwFu7c= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:72398 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > That is, test (in order): > > 1) imaps > 2) imap + starttls > 3) imap I started up Mail on my iMac for the first time, just to see what a modern MUA does. It first asked me for my address and my password. Then it tried doing... something based on that address -- I'm guessing it probed for pop3 and imap ports. Then it said it couldn't find anything, and asked me to choose an incoming mail server. It defaulted to pop3, but had three other choices: IMAP, Exchange 2007, and Exchange 2007 IMAP (!). Weird. Anyway, I chose IMAP, and it presented me with a new dialogue saying that the certificate was invalid, so it had contacted the imaps port. (Since the server in question doesn't have an open imap port.) I clicked "continue", and it presented me with an overview of everything, and under the "IMAP" section "ssl encryption" was ticked on. So I'm guessing it probed imaps and then imap, just like my clever plan. And then stored the result. Which reminds me. Stuff like this should be stored. If nnimap has determined that server X is an imaps server, or whatever, then it shouldn't have to probe every time Emacs is run. Does Emacs have any good mechanism for saving data like this? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen