Generate buffer containing only undownloaded

Generate buffer containing only undownloaded

[Harry Putnam]

Whats the trick way to sort a large summary buffer to display only
undownloaded messages?  I'm set up to display + for downloaded and -
for undownloaded.  No faces confusion.  Seemed at least a chance that
`/ m - <RET>' would collect those marked with minus sign but it doesn't
work that way.

I find that I often have a few undownloaded messages mixed in with
many downloaded ones.  Due to my reading habits no doubt.  Even
though the category predicate is `true'.  I rarely go unplugged so
sometimes read messages before they are downloaded which I think is
what causes the random undownloaded messages.

Anyway, how can I sort a few dozen undownloaded into a display from a
summary of buffer of several thousand?

Re: Generate buffer containing only undownloaded

[Kevin Greiner]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> Whats the trick way to sort a large summary buffer to display only
> undownloaded messages?  I'm set up to display + for downloaded and -
> for undownloaded.  No faces confusion.  Seemed at least a chance that
> `/ m - <RET>' would collect those marked with minus sign but it doesn't
> work that way.

People used to complain that the download mark overrode the other
marks so it was separated out.  I suppose that a
gnus-summary-limit-to-undownloaded could be written, there's just not
been any demand for it.

This isn't meant to be a solution, just an explanation.

> I find that I often have a few undownloaded messages mixed in with
> many downloaded ones.  Due to my reading habits no doubt.  Even
> though the category predicate is `true'.  I rarely go unplugged so
> sometimes read messages before they are downloaded which I think is
> what causes the random undownloaded messages.

I may have a solution for this one.  Add
gnus-agent-fetch-selected-article to the gnus-select-article-hook.
This will result in undownloaded messages being downloaded to the
agent as you read them.

> Anyway, how can I sort a few dozen undownloaded into a display from a
> summary of buffer of several thousand?

How about an alternative solution?

Use 'M-^ 1 0 0 0 0 J #' to mark all articles for fetching then use
'J S' to fetch them.  The nice part is that the agent will only fetch
those articles that have not already been fetched.

Kevin

Re: Generate buffer containing only undownloaded

[Harry Putnam]

Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com> writes:

[...]

>> I find that I often have a few undownloaded messages mixed in with
>> many downloaded ones.  Due to my reading habits no doubt.  Even
>> though the category predicate is `true'.  I rarely go unplugged so
>> sometimes read messages before they are downloaded which I think is
>> what causes the random undownloaded messages.
>
> I may have a solution for this one.  Add
> gnus-agent-fetch-selected-article to the gnus-select-article-hook.
> This will result in undownloaded messages being downloaded to the
> agent as you read them.

Oh, this looks promising... yes.  ... Thanks

>> Anyway, how can I sort a few dozen undownloaded into a display from a
>> summary of buffer of several thousand?
>
> How about an alternative solution?
>
> Use 'M-^ 1 0 0 0 0 J #' to mark all articles for fetching then use
> 'J S' to fetch them.  The nice part is that the agent will only fetch
> those articles that have not already been fetched.

That is what I've been doing, but its a bit labor intensive.  Takes a
fair bit of time.  But worse is the fact that all readedness marks
leave town with that solution. ... (on whatever gets downloaded)
Not a very good solution but yes, it does work.

Re: Generate buffer containing only undownloaded

[Kevin Greiner]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>>> I find that I often have a few undownloaded messages mixed in with
>>> many downloaded ones.  Due to my reading habits no doubt.  Even
>>> though the category predicate is `true'.  I rarely go unplugged so
>>> sometimes read messages before they are downloaded which I think is
>>> what causes the random undownloaded messages.
>>
>> I may have a solution for this one.  Add
>> gnus-agent-fetch-selected-article to the gnus-select-article-hook.
>> This will result in undownloaded messages being downloaded to the
>> agent as you read them.
>
> Oh, this looks promising... yes.  ... Thanks
>
>>> Anyway, how can I sort a few dozen undownloaded into a display from a
>>> summary of buffer of several thousand?
>>
>> How about an alternative solution?
>>
>> Use 'M-^ 1 0 0 0 0 J #' to mark all articles for fetching then use
>> 'J S' to fetch them.  The nice part is that the agent will only fetch
>> those articles that have not already been fetched.
>
> That is what I've been doing, but its a bit labor intensive.  Takes a
> fair bit of time.  But worse is the fact that all readedness marks
> leave town with that solution. ... (on whatever gets downloaded)
> Not a very good solution but yes, it does work.

Set gnus-agent-mark-unread-after-downloaded to nil.

Kevin

Re: Generate buffer containing only undownloaded

[Harry Putnam]

Kevin Greiner <kgreiner@xpediantsolutions.com> writes:

> Set gnus-agent-mark-unread-after-downloaded to nil.

Haa... thanks