From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45595 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nevin Kapur Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make gnus-summary-delete-article respect group parameters Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 09:09:29 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1026220192 10315 127.0.0.1 (9 Jul 2002 13:09:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17RukZ-0002gG-00 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 15:09:51 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17RukU-0004CN-00; Tue, 09 Jul 2002 08:09:46 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 09 Jul 2002 08:10:10 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA24365 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:09:59 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 9655 invoked by alias); 9 Jul 2002 13:09:30 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 9650 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2002 13:09:30 -0000 Original-Received: from fermat.mts.jhu.edu (128.220.17.18) by gnus.org with SMTP; 9 Jul 2002 13:09:30 -0000 Original-Received: (from nevin@localhost) by fermat.mts.jhu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g69D9Tu14079; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:09:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: fermat.mts.jhu.edu: nevin set sender to nevin@jhu.edu using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: #i!d%y+1tilG}1ua9z&9waMLqE>H+;pUwWFetZe]4uWiv;VE:GHLnT1\Gj]>l^(]R#}sD@E"(@?vMv,yb@`?32;i~D$6x6m*%!3gPyp-rb$}.%QpxZ!3Y+jESN5[s7SL_68Sc`Aek)A$M|h++b/2VjR.k+Tw4X+0a%:K-kcUeMZ(rs?}v\eG({5J&IPS In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Tue, 09 Jul 2002 14:56:31 +0200") Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 39 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.4 (Honest Recruiter, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45595 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45595 Simon Josefsson writes: > Nevin Kapur writes: [...] >> I would also like to argue that B DEL performing expiry instead of >> deletion is inconsistent with its name and its description in the >> manual. > > Yes, which is why B DEL doesn't respect expiry-target, no? But it respects nnmail-expiry-target. So if you have it set to something other than 'delete, then any article that is B DELed will be put through the expiry process. In my case that means junk mail that makes it to my INBOX lands up in my archive groups. > If you want expiry-target to be adheared, you should expire the > article, not delete it. With the current behavior it is not possible to have nnmail-expiry-target set to some archival sort of function *and* have B DEL immediately expunge the article, bypassing nnmail-expiry-target. I offered the patch to make the current behavior consistent. If g-s-d-a looks at nnmail-expiry-target then it should also look at the expiry-target group parameter. For me the best outcome would be if B DEL outright deleted the article. But this may break somebody else's setup who has relied on B DEL to expire articles. For them the patch is useful. > Perhaps this isn't a intuitive default behaviour, I'm not sure since I > don't use expiry-target. I don't know how to change the default behavior in a nice backward compatible way. Once could always introduce another variable... -Nevin