From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35855 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Wizards and W3 integration (was: Re: A road map for Oort Gnus) Date: 16 Apr 2001 18:49:12 +0200 Sender: larsi@quimbies.gnus.org Message-ID: References: <2561-Sat14Apr2001193850+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171538 5292 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:38:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: abraham@dina.kvl.dk, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, wmperry@aventail.com Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 12782 invoked by alias); 16 Apr 2001 16:53:13 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 12777 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2001 16:53:13 -0000 Original-Received: from quimbies.gnus.org (195.204.10.148) by gnus.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 16:53:13 -0000 Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by quimbies.gnus.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA11691; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:49:13 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: quimbies.gnus.org: larsi set sender to lmi@gnus.org using -f X-Now-Playing: Arto Lindsay's _O Corpo Sutil_: "Esta Seu Olhar" Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <2561-Sat14Apr2001193850+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> ("Eli Zaretskii"'s message of "Sat, 14 Apr 2001 19:38:50 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) Emacs/20.6 X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > Windows users might know what setup wizards are (assuming that _I_ > understood you correctly), but others probably don't. Regardless, > someone should probably post a summary of the problem and previous > discussions for those on emacs-devel who don't read ding. A "setup wizard" is a program that guides you through setting up something. As opposed to preference settings, a wizard lets you take only certain steps, and checks that the steps are reasonable. Let's take the simplest wizard possible: Starting reading news (and only news) with Gnus. The wizard would ask (after checking the environment as determining that the user has no previous preference) -- "do you want to read news from a local spool or from a news server?" If the user answers "local spool", the wizard would check whether there is a spool in any of the usual places, and if it finds one, it will suggest using that spool. If not, it will tell the user, and let the user determine what to do. (For instance, going back to choosing a news server.) The user says "news server", the wizard will try pinging "news." to see whether that exists, and if it does, present that as the choice, and if not, etc. Ideally, a wizard should let the user press "Ok" several times, and the user should then have something that works. The name "setup wizard" sucks, though. "Setup Saint" would be much better. "Let Saint Ignucious Guide You." With a nice iconic Ignucious. Or something. Perhaps not. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen